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Re: Calling all HMS "Mighty" Hood fans

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dave77 wrote:hi all,
just a couple of questions on the 1/350 Trumpeter Hood.
What are parts F1 and F5 and what colour should they be?
and
i am adding some crew - what colour uniforms should they have?
thanks
Hi Dave,

F1 and F5 are wooden booms. These particular ones were unpainted wood. Interestingly enough, the very large amidships booms (mounted on the side of the hull roughly abreast the first funnel were painted hull colour (most people mistakenly leave this bare wood in colour...)

One other major thing to lookout for- don't mount the rafts to the side of the bridge wear Trumpeter tells you to! This is wrong for a 1941 Hood. See our article at http://hmshood.com/hoodtoday/models/tru ... mpeter.htm for specifics. Many people don't realise there is such a mistake in the Trumpter instructions.

Crew- It depends on when and where you are modelling her. If you are modelling her as late winter 1940/41 or Spring 1941, most men would have on cold weather gear.

The base uniform colour for the men would of course be navy blue (this would cover men in standard uniforms, officers in standard long coats, caps, etc). Many men would have on large "Winne the Pooh" coloured duffle coats. Some would have on oilskins (dark greyish colour). Some men may have standard caps, some may have battle bowlers (old fashioned British helmets) in dark green. If at sea some men may have "Mae West" life preservers on. There's a good chance they are wearing gas mask bags slung around them as well (tannish/green colour I believe).

The above applies to the RN lads. I assume the Marines would wear similar gear (and at that scale, I doubt anyone would notice). Of course, you could always throw in an officer with the white cap and red band on. You could also put the band on deck in pith helmets too.

I hope that helps.

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It's not the rivets themselves that are the problem - it's the raised plates that they sit on. It makes the top of the turret look as though it has two large recesses, when they really should be just stepped slopes.

Kit's:
http://hmshood.com/hoodtoday/models/tru ... urret3.jpg

What they should look like (Second picture shows it better):
http://www.whiteensignmodels.com/brochu ... o3510a.jpg
http://www.whiteensignmodels.com/brochu ... o3510b.jpg
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I see what you mean. Perhaps I will get a set of WEM turrets.
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I have Lion Roar's resin replacement turrets which came complete with brass barrels, and very nice they are too! I see that they seem to be no longer available as a separate item from Lion Roar - Does anyone know of an outlet which might still have some unsold stock?

Looking at WEMs offerings in comparison, how do you attach any aftermarket or even kit barrels to them? I am assuming that you have to roughly guess the position and then drill out the fronts of the barrel apertures?

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Dave Martin wrote:I have Lion Roar's resin replacement turrets which came complete with brass barrels, and very nice they are too! I see that they seem to be no longer available as a separate item from Lion Roar - Does anyone know of an outlet which might still have some unsold stock?

Looking at WEMs offerings in comparison, how do you attach any aftermarket or even kit barrels to them? I am assuming that you have to roughly guess the position and then drill out the fronts of the barrel apertures?

Dave
Correctly mounting the barrels is what concerns me. I think instead of buying resin turrets, I will mask off the rivets, and then fill the sunken areas with putty and sand in smooth to create a more smooth turret roof.
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Thomas E. Johnson wrote:
Correctly mounting the barrels is what concerns me. I think instead of buying resin turrets, I will mask off the rivets, and then fill the sunken areas with putty and sand in smooth to create a more smooth turret roof.
Won't help. The plates on the top of the turret are stepped like shingles on a roof. If you mask off the rivet lines and fill in the depressions, the turret tops will lose the steps.
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chuck wrote:
Thomas E. Johnson wrote:
Correctly mounting the barrels is what concerns me. I think instead of buying resin turrets, I will mask off the rivets, and then fill the sunken areas with putty and sand in smooth to create a more smooth turret roof.
Won't help. The plates on the top of the turret are stepped like shingles on a roof. If you mask off the rivet lines and fill in the depressions, the turret tops will lose the steps.
Are there any State Side locations where I can order the WEM Turrets?
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email Randy at here

http://www.shipcamouflage.com/

Get the Turrets, you can't fix the garbage from Trump. The ones from WEM are excellent
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The Trumpeter 1/350 kit's boats are a bit disappointing, can I use the boats from a Tamiya KGV kit or would they be the wrong type?

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They are the wrong type as are the ones by Trumpeter. As far as I know, the correct boats (the hard-chine fast motor boats) are not available in 1:350.
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Thanks EJ, I wonder if one of the aftermarket companies will do some boats.
I know you will be making your own but that is a different scale I think? :smallsmile:

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It's all in 1/350 scale. I nearly finished all of them some time ago. :woo_hoo: I should paint them actually...

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This is a pic I took some time ago (ouch, 2006 :D) showing the Fast Motor Boats. It's the 25 and 35ft boats that are always wrong on all kits. One of the 35ft FMBs is actually the admirals barge. It bears a striking familiarity with the Royal Barge (I don't think that anyone knows this, so here you are ;)). Difficult to see, as this Admirals Barge is only visible on a handful of pictures. It appears to have the same forward cabin arrangement but the pilot's position is also enclosed as on the 25ft FMBs and the aft cabin has a double window. The FMBs are shown more clearly in AOTS Victorious, displaying the 25ft FMB, 35 FMB and a 35ft FMB as a seaplane tender, that is, without it rear cabin and a different walkway between the two engines. If you want the lines drawings, you have to ask John Lambert nicely. She definitely did no longer carry the steam pinnaces. Note that AOTS is particularly poor in the drawings of the ships boats for the late version of HMS Hood. The only boat I'm not sure about is the 42ft motorized barge (it was present on her final configuration). I know what the unmotorized version looks like (AOTS Dreadnought). The KGV's carried other FMBs.

When these submodels are done, I'll write it all out in my blog, but they are currently not on my immediate to-do list (I am working on a second etch set and I'm currently pinning down all the sights and directors on the bridge levels).

This is a picture form the Hood site showign a 35ft FMB

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This is a model royal barge I found on the net, with a wrong rear rear cabin.

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Thanks EJ.
They look fantastic, your work always amazes me and I take my hat off to you!

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EJ,
Yes, those boats are marvelous. Have read your blog and look forward to more.
Cheers,
John
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Trumpeters 1/700 1931 Hood ? I read a previous post by Mr Allen, " If we could combine a 41 Hood and 31 Hood we might be able to make an accurate Hood " (not exact quote) but,,,, he is talking about the Trumpeter 1/700 kits I assume.
I have read Mr Allen's review on the HMS Hood Assn site. Is there additional changes or mods. to be made on the Trumpy 1/700 1931 Hood kit that are not listed in Mr Allens review ? I have been studying the Anatomy of the Ship book and am attemting to make a list concerning Mods to Hood. I want to build her in the '33-'36 time frame. '31 if I have to./
Also, maybe I am blind or thick headed but after the 31 refit is there any aircraft on Hood at all ? Mr Allen mentions the Fairy in his review. just can't seem to grasp this aircraft situ 100% in my feeble mind.

Any help with these questions would be greatly appreciated !

Thanks much, Tony
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I see that no Aircraft are on Hood after '32. The entire range of Mods done in 31 and 34 including all the gun directors is a bit confusing in the Pictorial and Anatomy books, I want to go with a 1934 Hood so there are additional mods to the forebridge and gun directors made in 34 I believe. Confusing the say the least. I am going thru this entire Hood thread now to see what I can find on this. Anyone have any good and definate info on this ?

Thanks Tony
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semaphores on Hood, where?

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Hi all,

I would like to know where the semaphores are located on Hood. My PE set comes with two of them. I think one of them goes behind the conning tower, is that correct? And if so, where does the other one go?

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The other two (!) are on the same deck, but on the far aft end rally in the corner (1941 version). Signalmen shelters were closeby and the semaphores aren't always in the pictures. Removable perhaps?
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Post by mat »

well,

I guess you are right and the "object" I discovered must be something else or they must have been moved during the refit since the picture I have is from 1924.

Thanks for helping me out, I can finally start painting now :)
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Hi,
It doesn't say in the sheet that comes with WEM's/EJ's resin turrets whether they are used with or without Trumps bases. Can anyone enlighten me?
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