Post-war USN Paint colors
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Delfin
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Post-war USN Paint colors
I'm buildinga Gering class DD in post WW II colors. What gray were the vertical surfaces and decks.
Thanks.
P.S. I would appreciate a quick answer as I'm to begin the painting stage.
Thanks.
P.S. I would appreciate a quick answer as I'm to begin the painting stage.
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Tracy White
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Re: Paint colors
Haze Gray & Deck Gray.
I'd appreciate a thank you since I took the time to answer your question.
I'd appreciate a thank you since I took the time to answer your question.
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Delfin
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Re: Paint colors
Thank you Tracy. Could you be more specific. Which Haze Gray 5-H ? Is it possible for you guide me on who manufactures these paints. I have 5-H from White Ensign, but this is a WWII color. Would it be the same.
Thanks again for your guidanse.
Thanks again for your guidanse.
- Cliffy B
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Re: Paint colors
Modern Haze Gray and Deck Gray are made by Model Master paints in Neutral Gray and Gunship Gray respectively with FS numbers matching.
WWII 5-H Haze Gray was a "blue gray" Modern Haze Gray is 50% Neutral Gray and when viewed in certain lighting conditions appears to contain some "green".
WWII 5-H Haze Gray was a "blue gray" Modern Haze Gray is 50% Neutral Gray and when viewed in certain lighting conditions appears to contain some "green".
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1/700 Whiff USS Leyte and escorts 1984
1/700 Whiff USN Modernized CAs 1984
1/700 Whiff ASW Showdown - FFs vs SSGN 1984
Slipway:
1/700 Whiff USN ASW Hunter Killer Group Dio 1984
1/700 Whiff USS Leyte and escorts 1984
1/700 Whiff USN Modernized CAs 1984
1/700 Whiff ASW Showdown - FFs vs SSGN 1984
Slipway:
1/700 Whiff USN ASW Hunter Killer Group Dio 1984
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Delfin
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Re: Paint colors
Thank you Cliffy B. I will proceed inmediately with the paint job as I have all the grays from Model Master.
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Re: Post-war USN Paint colors
No problem man. Remember post some pics of your build!
Drawing Board:
1/700 Whiff USS Leyte and escorts 1984
1/700 Whiff USN Modernized CAs 1984
1/700 Whiff ASW Showdown - FFs vs SSGN 1984
Slipway:
1/700 Whiff USN ASW Hunter Killer Group Dio 1984
1/700 Whiff USS Leyte and escorts 1984
1/700 Whiff USN Modernized CAs 1984
1/700 Whiff ASW Showdown - FFs vs SSGN 1984
Slipway:
1/700 Whiff USN ASW Hunter Killer Group Dio 1984
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NukeMM
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Re: Paint colors
I'd like to thank you, too, Cliffy!Cliffy B wrote:Modern Haze Gray and Deck Gray are made by Model Master paints in Neutral Gray and Gunship Gray respectively with FS numbers matching.
WWII 5-H Haze Gray was a "blue gray" Modern Haze Gray is 50% Neutral Gray and when viewed in certain lighting conditions appears to contain some "green".
I have always been using Model Master Acrylic Neutral Gray and Gunship Gray for the hull and decks, respectively, on my post war 1/700 ships, but I didn't realize I was being so, accurate. It just looked right, to me.
For my WWII USS Oyster Bay AGP-6 I have chosen MM Acrylic Dark Gull Gray. It is just a tad darker than the Neutral Gray. I am still using Gunship Gray for the deck, but with a rusty weathered look using MM Acrylic Leather in a wash.
Thank you for posting the question, Delfin!
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- Seasick
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You'll see the FS numbers on some bottles
USN colors Post war:
Haze Gray FS36270 for vertical surfaces
Deck Gray FS36118 for horizontal surfaces
I make my avation surfaces just a little darker with two drops of black mixed in on my mixing tray.
On 1/700 scale kits I coat them with gloss coat after the paint is dry, apply decals, and then airbrush a thin coat of dullcoat over the model until it has a dull luster. Gloss coat gives the kit a nice finish and the thin coat of dullcoat diminishes the luster.
Haze Gray FS36270 for vertical surfaces
Deck Gray FS36118 for horizontal surfaces
I make my avation surfaces just a little darker with two drops of black mixed in on my mixing tray.
On 1/700 scale kits I coat them with gloss coat after the paint is dry, apply decals, and then airbrush a thin coat of dullcoat over the model until it has a dull luster. Gloss coat gives the kit a nice finish and the thin coat of dullcoat diminishes the luster.
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Jonck
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Re: Post-war USN Paint colors
Hey Seasick
That color scheme (haze grey and deck grey) is valid for the Korea War / 1951?
Thanks
That color scheme (haze grey and deck grey) is valid for the Korea War / 1951?
Thanks
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Tracy White
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Re: Post-war USN Paint colors
They were probably still using the 1945 neutral paints in measure 13. Very close, but I don't think exactly the same.
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Russ2146
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Re: Post-war USN Paint colors
Does anyone happen to know why Testors/MM insists on renaming paint colors? Why in the world couldn't they call FS 36270 Haze Grey rather than Neutral Grey? Same thing for the Deck. Why do they have to call it Gunship Grey?
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Tracy White
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Because it was used on AC-130 gunships.
*WE* assign names to things that have only designations. Paint companies aren't required to match any thing and can name things however they want. I wish they wouldn't, but we have to keep in mind that the VAST majority of people don't truly care about color; they just want to buy the correct bottle and not worry about it.
*WE* assign names to things that have only designations. Paint companies aren't required to match any thing and can name things however they want. I wish they wouldn't, but we have to keep in mind that the VAST majority of people don't truly care about color; they just want to buy the correct bottle and not worry about it.
Tracy White -Researcher@Large
"Let the evidence guide the research. Do not have a preconceived agenda which will only distort the result."
-Barbara Tuchman
"Let the evidence guide the research. Do not have a preconceived agenda which will only distort the result."
-Barbara Tuchman
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Russ2146
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Re: Post-war USN Paint colors
Tracy,
I assume you've seen this, but just in case, from 1953 http://www.hnsa.org/doc/pdf/camo1953.pdf
I assume you've seen this, but just in case, from 1953 http://www.hnsa.org/doc/pdf/camo1953.pdf