1/72 Bismarck

[bradjack99]

Hey Phil,
Thanks for the info you have provided me and the pics you post as they help illustrate how to construct the bismarck. Looking forward to completion.

[destroyerman]

Straight out of the 'top quality' drawer Phil.

You should be justifiably proud when the task is completed, because the attention to detail is staggering!

It's also good to note that your wife has her involvement in the build too, a very important element in the time and patience that you commit to the task.

Keep the photo updates coming, you have a considerable following.

[Capit�o Norbert]

I am very satisfied with this construction too.
yes Kiwwi is a great builder.
congratulations

[badkeson]

G'day Phil,
What you have created is nothing short of simply breathtaking!!!
Have been threatening to build a 1:72 Tirpitz for a few years now and after seeing what you are doing, am more determined then ever to build the sister to your lady.
Just wondering where you got your plans from and how much they are? I purchased numerous books by Breyer, Schmolke and others and I obtained a set of original drawings, namely a plan and elevation view from Bremerhaven. This didn't come with the bulkhead diagrams and as such I have been attempting to re-invent the wheel by enlarging a 1:400 diagram I found in one of the books and I am only about 70% confident of the accuracy. I have the space and have the tools, just need a plan to follow. Any help in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.

Gav

[Kiwimedic]

Hi All
Thanks for your encouraging words.
Yes my wife does help me but better still she encourages me when I lose my way.
I have another good friend, Gordon who does all the CAD work for the etch.
(Something I must learn.) The trouble is if I do CAD work when I am off I would never do any ship construction.
GAV ........... Where do you hail from?
The best drawings in the world are Nick fox drawings.......... Aussie
He has Bismarck 1-1 in a special computer ............... down to the last bolt!

Regards
Phil.

[destroyerman]

Hi All
The best drawings in the world are Nick fox drawings.......... Aussie
He has Bismarck 1-1 in a special computer ............... down to the last bolt!

Regards
Phil.

AH! THAT's where the 64,000 rivets came from .........!

[badkeson]

G'day Phil,
Mate, I live in Caboolture Australia, Just north of Brisbane.
Would you happen to have a contact e-mail of Nick Fox? Would like to do a transaction with him.
Still don't know what material to build the hull in. Timber, timber GRP mix, or as my daughter (14 year old who wants to help with construction) metal... That would be a challenge I think, and getting her water tight without warping the skin would be an interesting exercise. Spoke to an old engineer I know and he said would be do-able, but would need to find the right guage of the material intended. Any thoughts?
Would like to sail her on the Bribie Passage when done.... a winter morning with the fog there would just harken back to the Day I think. Plus there is usually a bit of chop and at that scale would be just so "�tlanticish"....
Regards,
Gav

[Kiwimedic]

Gav
I would do a wood plank on frame if I was you.
skin it with very thin G.R.P.
It is the easiest and strongest solution.
Metal in this size tends to get damaged very easily.
Have a metal superstructure by all means.
I will P.M. Nicks contact e-mail when I get permission.
(This is his private one and not the one used for dwgs.)

Phil.

[bradjack99]

Hi Gav,
Good to hear you are thinking about a 1/72 Tirpitz. I live in Brisbane so not that far from you (compared to others), I have a set of Nick Fox plans and they are stunning excellent detail. I have attached some links for you, he only does up to 1/100 scale, it may be possible to sweet talk him into 1/72 who knows it cant hurt to try. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

http://www.foxcad.com.au/Drawings/Bismarck.htm
http://www.bismarck-class.dk/bismarck/i ... k_fox.html

Brad

[BobaFettSlave_1]

does anyone know if they still sell the hulls? i tried contacting them about a hull but got no reply

thanks,
Dana

[Wrench]

G'day Phil,
Mate, I live in Caboolture Australia, Just north of Brisbane.
Would you happen to have a contact e-mail of Nick Fox? Would like to do a transaction with him.
Still don't know what material to build the hull in. Timber, timber GRP mix, or as my daughter (14 year old who wants to help with construction) metal... That would be a challenge I think, and getting her water tight without warping the skin would be an interesting exercise. Spoke to an old engineer I know and he said would be do-able, but would need to find the right guage of the material intended. Any thoughts?
Would like to sail her on the Bribie Passage when done.... a winter morning with the fog there would just harken back to the Day I think. Plus there is usually a bit of chop and at that scale would be just so "�tlanticish"....
Regards,
Gav

Somewhere I have an old Scale Ship Modeller Magazine that has the Joseph Kennedy (Gearing) in 1/48th all metal. As I recall it was constructed of HVAC duct tin, epoxied together and faired with bondo. Looked great and stated to be very cost efficient. .

[badkeson]

Thanks gentlemen for your comments and advice.
Phil, I eagarly await for an email address for Mr Fox. After considering your advice about the plank on frame with GRP covering, I am leaning this way.
As soon as I obtain the plans I am looking forward to the build. I hope to pick all your collective brains.
Regards,
Gav

[badkeson]

Phil,
I recieved the link for the email address and have sent the request. I thank you for your assistance in this matter.
I have one buring question and haven't been able to read it from any of your posts. You mentioned you caulked the decking. I saw the black edge on the timber work, what did you use/how did you do it?
Regards,
Gav

[Kiwimedic]

Gav
We are here for the picking!
That is one of the many reasons for this site.
Most of us are happy to impart what we have learned over the years .............. We are sometimes shy though.
There is probably 10,000 years of experience here.
The caulking is.
The sticky on one side black in colour computer graphics plastic that is used in advertising outside on bill-boards, windows etc is best.
You lay a plank on its side onto the sticky side of the plastic. Leave a little on the end as you need to fold it over to cover the end of the plank.
My last post shows photos of trimming area and a pile in a coffee jar ready for use. I am presently covered in little cut off bits from this job.
I have tried other methods like electrical insulation tape but they do not work well.
I think this is the best method.
If you need I could get a plank covered in a close up for you.

regards
Phil

[badkeson]

The caulking is.
The sticky on one side black in colour computer graphics plastic that is used in advertising outside on bill-boards, windows etc is best.
You lay a plank on its side onto the sticky side of the plastic. Leave a little on the end as you need to fold it over to cover the end of the plank.
My last post shows photos of trimming area and a pile in a coffee jar ready for use. I am presently covered in little cut off bits from this job.
I have tried other methods like electrical insulation tape but they do not work well.
I think this is the best method.
If you need I could get a plank covered in a close up for you.

regards
Phil[/quote]

If you could, would likely make more sense to me. it almost sounds like a broad sheet of adhesive that you stick on as a thin strip as a spacing agent (like the waterproofing caulking). so you would stick the timber to the sheet and then using a blade, cut the timber free of the rest of the sheet? Along the right lines?

[ARH]

Look at the bottom of page 2 on the IRON DUKE Build, shows how to plank.

[bradjack99]

Hi Phil,
If you could get a close up that would be great, the decking is a major part of the model and can detract from the rest of the ship if not done correctly, i have viewed your photo's of your decking and they are exquisite, I can see why it took so long to do. When I get up to decking my model I will no doubt be pestering you for further advice, as after Bismarck hello Yamato, Decking skills will be handy.

[Kiwimedic]

Hi All
Here is a quick run through on planking.
First of all you need to know what plank sizes are in your scale.
Also the pattern that they are laid in.
Gav/Brad your ships have a 5 plank pattern.
The planks I have used are around 14 to foot long and 6 inches wide.
or 60mm X 2.2 mm in 1:72 scale.

First of all you cut the planks to length and width etc. Then place them on the sticky side of some black Computer Graphic paper.
You carefully trim the plastic to the plank and have one end folded over.
Once this is done you mark out the deck with pencil in your 5 plank pattern.
You then lay the "King "planks which run down the centre of all ships, stem to stern.
Lay the margin planks around the edge and the superstructure. This where research comes into play.
Some fittings on a ship may have margin planks and some may not. Hatches usually do.
Lay a generous amount of glue onto the deck and start laying the planks in your pattern.
Once they are down , wipe the excess glue away and clamp your planks in place.
I do not do more than five rows at a time as too many things go wrong. (Trust me this is my experience.)
Once the glue has gone off, remove the clamps.
It will look a bit rough but do not worry as underneath you have created a diamond.
Any angles above 45 Degrees should be joggled. That is where the plank is trimmed to go into the margin plank.
After all the deck is laid. Sand it all smooth.
Do not use an orbital sander or you will have little"8's" all over the decking.
Once it is finished find some colourless polyurethane and thin it down to water thickness. Wipe it over the deck with a lint free cloth.
2 coats should be perfect.
Good Luck

Regards
Phil.

[Yamato72]

Hello Philip

sorry for my English

the big guns of the Yamato I've made specifically to scale 1 / 72 by the company http://www.master-model.pl/.
I used the book The Anatomy of The Ship The Battleship Yamato where he portrays the structure of the turret, if there is you here is the design.
you send the design of the gun barrel and the material to be used..

I can ask you a question six English?
We would like to invite to a show with our club participates every year expo model in Verona Italy.

Rolf

[Kiwimedic]

Hi Rolf
I have the barrel situation in hand
Piotr just caught up with me 5 minutes ago.

I would love to come to Italy when Bismarck is finished.
Next Year?
Regards
Philip.