1/72 Bismarck

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:29 am

Egberth wrote:
guest wrote: This is 1 very important question, and people after this question plz dont Call me Nazi, are you going 2 paint the swastika on her bow/stern, because she wouldnt be the Bismark without them.
I think the Bismarck wouldn't be the Bismarck with the Swastika as most of the time in her most famous (aka only) operation "Rhein�bung" the "Fliegerkennung" was painted over (on 22nd May).

Dirk

Well it depends on what part of her Operation you want her paint caot to be in b4 or after that Date. it all depends on the part of the Operation.

badkeson · Post by **badkeson** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:27 am

Thanks Phil,
The info on the deck laying was sensational, answered a lot of questions.
I have also used the email link you sent me and followed the instructions. Am just awaiting a reply and hope soon to be laying my keel. If all doesn't go too well with the planking of the hull, I may have to take the big step of ordering one of the 20 hulls from your mould.
As a side note, your choice of the brass for the superstructure, apart from ease of soldering etc, is there any other benefits of this material over aluminium. (I have a Mig welder and have the means to weld the superstructure together). I was just thinking of the weight of materials. Also, I am starting to purchase bulk materials as I see them to ensure I have them for the construction ( I luckily have a huge shed to play in!

) I have already been able to secure 2 sheets of marine grade ply for the bulkheads and keel, am looking to obtain a few sheets of 1.5mm marine ply for the skin. Heard from a fella that it exists and so thought might be a go stripped down and used as planks. Was thinking 1/4" to 1/2" would be good widths that wouldn't be too stiff to flex around the complex shape. Any comments as to the choices or any hints to avoid problems would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Gav

Kiwimedic · Post by **Kiwimedic** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:56 am

Gav
You will get away with fairly wide sections of ply if you decide to go that way.
You will need narrower strips in the bow section and the stern section.
(You will get the hang of what it needs as you go.)
The prop sponson's etc would be better carved out of solid.
The total weight of the brass in the superstructure would not exceed 2 kg
It is .2mm or 8 thou' thick so no worry there.
The big advantage with brass is longevity .............
It has the correct look for scale.

Regards
Phil.

bradjack99 · Post by **bradjack99** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:06 am

Hi Phil,
How many square meter's of brass did you think you used for the build (+ extra's for practice and stuff ups) so that i know roughly how much i need to source. The information on planking was invaluable thanks for that.

Regards

Brad

Richard J OMalley · Post by **Richard J OMalley** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:06 am

Your deck is one of the best I have ever seen .Your nibbing is out of this world .

Post by **Dave Wooley** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:52 am

Richard J OMalley wrote:Your deck is one of the best I have ever seen .Your nibbing is out of this world .

I would endorse what Rhichard has said . Phil has embarked on a difficult subject, even though there is now available so much more information on this iconic warship. Like Norberto Phil is crafting a truly superb all scratch built model but using the medium of brass to create what will in time be a true master piece and being aware of the level of effort that Phil is putting into his Bismarck it may well become one of the most accurately detailed models of this ship produced to date.
Dave Wooley

navydavesof · Post by **navydavesof** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:25 pm

Kiwimedic wrote:Hi All
Here is a quick run through on planking.
First of all you need to know what plank sizes are in your scale.
Also the pattern that they are laid in.
Gav/Brad your ships have a 5 plank pattern.
The planks I have used are around 14 to foot long and 6 inches wide.
or 60mm X 2.2 mm in 1:72 scale.

First of all you cut the planks to length and width etc. Then place them on the sticky side of some black Computer Graphic paper.
You carefully trim the plastic to the plank and have one end folded over.
Once this is done you mark out the deck with pencil in your 5 plank pattern.
You then lay the "King "planks which run down the centre of all ships, stem to stern.
Lay the margin planks around the edge and the superstructure. This where research comes into play.
Some fittings on a ship may have margin planks and some may not. Hatches usually do.
Lay a generous amount of glue onto the deck and start laying the planks in your pattern.
Once they are down , wipe the excess glue away and clamp your planks in place.
I do not do more than five rows at a time as too many things go wrong. (Trust me this is my experience.)
Once the glue has gone off, remove the clamps.
It will look a bit rough but do not worry as underneath you have created a diamond.
Any angles above 45 Degrees should be joggled. That is where the plank is trimmed to go into the margin plank.
After all the deck is laid. Sand it all smooth.
Do not use an orbital sander or you will have little"8's" all over the decking.
Once it is finished find some colourless polyurethane and thin it down to water thickness. Wipe it over the deck with a lint free cloth.
2 coats should be perfect.
Good Luck

Regards
Phil.

Phil, wow, your decking is amazing. This is an amazing project you have going on. There are a few of you guys, such as you and Bill Waldorf who are inspiring right off the bat! I look forward to following your project closely!

Post by **Dave Wooley** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:36 am

Kiwi Medics amazing build had drifted onto page 2 .So the question would be how is progress on the Bismarck ?
Dave Wooley

Kiwimedic · Post by **Kiwimedic** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:20 pm

Hello All

I have been a bit busy.
I have just completed planking on all the after decks on Bismarck.
There are a bunch of before and after shots.
You will notice there is a bare patch on the after section of L3 behind the director.
I had originally laid decking in this area but have had to remove it to make it correct for the time I am building Bismarck too.
I will be removing some decking on the forward superstructure area in the future also.
(All from info from my trip to Dortmund.)

Enjoy
Regards
Phil.

Post by **Dave Wooley** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:05 pm

Hi Phil Getting the time line right for Bismarck is a tall order but I know you are getting there . Great to see you finishing off the planking this part of your build has been a long drawn out task but you are over the hard part.
Dave Wooley

desron48 · Post by **desron48** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:53 pm

this is turning out to be one fine ship.....

...i've had thoughts of building the USS CALIFORINA in 1/48th scale.....

...joe

badkeson · Post by **badkeson** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:04 am

WOW! Looking absolutely sensational.

Post by **JIM BAUMANN** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:59 am

Barking mad-

-but simply SUPERB !!

JIM B

destroyerman · Post by **destroyerman** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:24 pm

Jim,

I think 'stupefying' is the adjective that I'm looking for! The attention to detail that Phil is putting into this project is amazing. This is the standard that we can only aspire to and what an example for the rest of us.

Keep at it Phil and don't deprive your expectant audience of photographic updates for too long.

USS Michigan BB27 · Post by **USS Michigan BB27** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:55 am

The words Attention to Detail explodes all over this build! fine job looking forward to her sea (well pond haha) trial pictures someday.

Jumpy · Post by **Jumpy** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:58 am

Hay this is some stunning work that you have done here

Now for the question were on earth can I get a copy like the blueprints that you have on your wall
As I am wanting to start a build of the Bismarck

Kiwimedic · Post by **Kiwimedic** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:10 pm

Build main Turrets
Hello All
Time to build the SKC 34 turrets.
For accuracy and detail reasons I have chosen to do all the turrets in photo etch.
I have had my friend Gordon doing the etch for me. I purchased Turbo-cad and he has been teaching me
how to use it. There have been a number of 3-4 hour phone calls and a lot of that 4 letter word stuff.
I am now on my own ...............

I have done extensive research into the turrets .......... down to the correct number of bolts on the turret itself.
The things that look like rivets on the hull of the turret are in fact bolts, with a square drive in the head for removal.
They stand out quite a way on the hull. Sorting out a suitable drive system for the turrets and barrels has been an
ongoing occupation for 12 months now.
Making everything strong enough to take the turret drive system has been a very interesting task.
These turrets are in the rough ....... another 2 to go. Once all the build work on them inside and outside I will take to them with a file and sandpaper and will remove all visible solder.
Enjoy!