1/700-Mangini WW1 destroyer ("torpilleur d'escadre")

[donalyah00]

Thank you very much moomoon for photos, information and nice words! I will think about early guise of Bouclier (preferably just after joining French Navy). Sometime next year.

Do you know this book:http://www.marines-editions.fr/boutique ... fr&num=141?
If so, are there any interesting photos of those destroyers? Would it be correct to use photos of other WW1 French destroyers for building Bouclier's onboard equipment (hatches, doors, guns, etc.)? Was such equipment standarized in the Navy, or every shipyard had its own ways?

[moomoon]

Many hatches and the guns look standard, doors I don't know but the link given earlier has very detailed plans. I have more pics of Bouclier model in Toulon available when you'll need it, but real pics of these ships are not easy to find (I have only found 5 pics of the Mangini!)...

There are only one pic per class of ship in the book you show, but they are always very good (in fact 3 for the 800t: Bouclier early, Bisson early and Enseigne Roux postwar).

On the same website I recommend one of their recent book with full history, lots of pics, lots of plans and drowing useful for medelers:
"Les Contre-torpilleurs de type Gu�pard" by Moulin (Jean) - WW2 destroyers I know, yet they still have four funnels
http://www.marines-editions.fr/boutique ... fr&num=141

The others books about Fantasque, Vauquelin, Bourrasque, Adroit, torpilleurs l�gers & destroyers d'escorte are also very good, but the one about Guepard has more detailed informations for the modelers and plans easier to use.
http://www.marines-editions.fr/boutique ... fr&num=141

where I'm at (many parts dry fitted)
Yellow bands around funnel and ship ID letters stands for the 6th Squadron that Mangini joined when it entered service.

[donalyah00]

Thank you once more! I do have the Vauquelin class book (4 funnels again ). First I will get Les Navires fran�ais 14-18 en Images book - I have one from this series (about French submarines) - the quality of photos is very good indeed.

Your Mangini looks nicer and nicer - cannot wait to see her with railings and rigging.

[moomoon]

Hello,

Railing (GMM) added, these are very nice and thin, any default showing on the pic is due to the PE noob I am

Bye.

[JIM BAUMANN]

Fine rails eh!

do check however for your ship--if they were cable and stanchion as opposed to fixed rails

--then the horizontal cable is often darker then the stanchion.

It also makes them look finer...

see below:

Jim Baumann

[moomoon]

Thanks for advice, I have painted the horizontail rails dark grey.
Artillery is in place now, funnels and masts unglued yet, within 6 more months she should be complete... or not!

[moomoon]

Hello,

Funnel and boats glued, weathering added: thinned very light grey, black, and two different reddish browns.
Still have to add some details on the rear bridge and then the much feared rigging...

bye.

[JIM BAUMANN]

rigging eh....!

this may help?

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37536


JIm B

[moomoon]

Thanks for the tutorial.
I'll try stretched sprue with my next ship, I had prepared this one for human hair rigging that's much more romantic!

Special thanks to Aur�lie and QN

[donalyah00]

Nice work!

[Quincy]

Bob Pink.

[moomoon]

thank you Bob and donalyah.

Rigging is done at last - ouf!
Simplified, not so strait and clean, but I'll cope with it.

[moomoon]

Well, it's almost done now...

added small boats at the stern

too much weathering I think...

1000 thanks to the man who offered me the railing!
Time to share new projects

Champagne! Happy New Year everybody!

[JIM BAUMANN]

Love the Mangini-- looking very nice--putting her in water...?

If so

have a look here:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37923


Havock--as far as I can see... looks STUNNING!!!!

JB

[MichelB]

I say, that Havock.... marvellous!

And of course the Mangini is fantastic as well.

Champagne well deserved!

[tausugair]

Hi, Moomoon..
I can't help being fascinated looking at the two inclined ladders (going up the bridge). . .I have reduced a Wickes top view into 700th scale . .in about the same location similar ladders are noticeable.. Can this be taken as typical, more or less, in all ships of this type? . . and, the ladders measure out at 0.75mm (+/-) wide in said scale (1/700th). . . I'd appreciate advice on how to do these... Many thanks...

(P.S. - I'm new to Ship Modeling)...

[moomoon]

Hello tausugair,
The ladders are from L'Arsenal (ref AC 700-02) and are quite standard I think.
There 3 different lenght: 7mm, 5mm & 3.5mm
For each lenght there are 5 with a 0.75mm width and 5 with a 1mm width.

In the past I simply used thin plastic stips...

Waiting for your Wickes pics...

[JIM BAUMANN]

Mon Dieu!

Your new railings are looking finer...

JB

[tausugair]

Hello tausugair,
The ladders are from L'Arsenal (ref AC 700-02) and are quite standard I think.
There 3 different lenght: 7mm, 5mm & 3.5mm
For each lenght there are 5 with a 0.75mm width and 5 with a 1mm width.

In the past I simply used thin plastic stips...

GLM17.jpg

Waiting for your Wickes pics...

Moomoon, thanks for the information! . . Your "in the past" suggestion is worthy of note, thanks.. . . Now, I wonder how the 700th scale boats are hung from the davits?

I'm not modeling the Wickes, but the USS RIZAL 174 which I don't have the plan.. but, I try to work it out using composite of other ships' in the class... and I hope I'm doing (now is) the right thing.... Again, thanks..

TA

[moomoon]

On my Mangini (and also on older model Giuseppe La Masa), the boats are not hung from the davits, they're perched on an electric wire: you can see it going down vertically from the middle of the boat to the ship's hull between davits...

I did better on HMS Bonetta (wire used on Mangini was too thick).

Bye.