ship of the line Pennsylvania (please reply with any info)

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I took a look at the rigging plan by Charles Ware. If you look closely you can see where some of the rigging goes to the hull while some looks like it is fastened OUTSIDE the the hull rather than over the bulwarks to pins. How this fastening is done I can only guess. I would think belaying pins near the base of the stem where it enters the hull could e a likely way. The bumpkins attach right at the conjunction of the hull and stem, so they would have to be somewhat lower and to either side. There is ample room for this. On another thought, a ladder/grated gangway of some sort would also allow access to the head. Perhaps easier than passing through a gun port/brindle port?
This is a plan for the 74's, but it would make even more sense on the Pennsylvania as it has a high bulkhead from the base of the bowsprit to the spar deck.

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[threebs]

I am about ready to cover the hammock railing. I am going to thread a rope through the cover and zigzag it to cleats on the "rail cap". I cannot imagine that they just spread a tarpaulin over it without securing it somehow? Does this sound right to you guys? Thanks!

[threebs]

I am about to glue the rail caps to the bow and stern. I am making the grate walkway on the bowsprit, and other items that need to go in this location. The hammock railing was/is more work than I had first thought!

[threebs]

I have finished the Hammock 'Netting" and the bow and stern bulkheads. I am working on the access from the bow ladder to the bowsprit. It is finished, except I will not install it until The bowsprit rigging is in place since all of the standing rigging passes under it or to each side of it to the hull.
I am now installing the lower dead eyes. I expect this to take some time, so I will post a few photos as work progresses.

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[threebs]

With regard to the photos, I am still playing around with my new camera. The dark on dark is much, much better with the photo in it's original size. It's original size fills the entire computer screen, something like 1,024X800 mega pixels! bringing it down to 300X200 or so really changes the aspect. If you where so inclined, one could download the photo and edit it to the original size, and the detail will be eye popping. Every little flaw stands out like a sore thumb. I will try to take photo outside, it is still in the 100's here and no clouds to speak of. VERY BRIGHT out

If you look at the links of other Ship of the line models I have provided, you will see that the interruption of the hammock paneling in the case of the OHIO, and the Netting in the case of the North Carolina at the bow and stern is present in both models. Both are more modern representations of these ships, so, I cannot say they are accurate. But, the consensus seems to be this is the case. Perhaps the slightly lower bulkheads at the bow and stern made it easier to pass rigging across them? Just a guess. I have included on photo of the North Carolina bow that shows the separation quite clearly. The Calling all ship fans, sub forum Sailing ships shows many more such photos of the NC.

[threebs]

I took a break from the chain plates, and decided to work on the masts some. Here are some photos of the process I used to make the cheeks.

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[cokerre@aol.com]

Hi,
Just found your web postings on your magnificent model of the Pennsylvania. While I have not built a model of her, I have posted photos on my web site
of US Ships of the Line at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/usshipsoftheline/
When you get a chance please add some photos of your finished model.

PC Coker

[threebs]

While I am having the dog bones made by a friend, I have moved on to the masts. Here is what I have done so far. I had a tough time coming up with something to make the mast hoops with. I could not cut sheet brass straight enough, and brass stock was too thick. I ended up buying some "French tinsel" on a spool from a fly tying parts website. Wrapping it around the mast three times gave me the thickness I needed and also a nice even width.

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[JIM BAUMANN]

That looks like sharp work! The photo background is definitely errr.... .... challenging to view !


Is there a close up of the underside of the platforms...?


JIM B

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[threebs]

I'll post some underside views soon. I do have cheeks for the other two masts. I am doing the main mast now. As for the cheeks being banded, I am using photos of the OHIO and drawings of the VICTORY to guide me. The cheeks are banded in both cases. The Yards and Masts plans for US 74's by Charles Ware are pretty crude. I could not tell if the cheeks were banded in them. It seems there are some number of cheek designs. The Constitution for instance incorporated the pounch and the cheeks in one piece. Sorry about photos not being enlargeable, I still do not have the trick down yet. I still have to install the bibs as well. Thanks for the heads up on the block rigging on the bottom of the platforms. I know it is a matter of personal choice if sails are rigged, either furled of brought up. Full sail hides a lot, and I do want some sail on her. I was thinking of unfurled top gallants and perhaps a spirit sail with the rest furled? Any suggestions anyone? If I put on sail at all, would I need to include every sail line? Do not know much about the sailing aspect of ships, So I do not know if some sail line was stowed or other wise lashed up when the sail is furled? I will need to do some research.

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My buddy says it is too hard for him to make the dog bones in the size I want (he tried). So, I bought some 15 mm pre made dog bones and cut out three mm and super glued them back together. I may need a drop of metal filler on the crack and then file down to fill in the crack. I will see how much a couple coats of paint does on a couple first. I have also made the dead eye strops for the platforms. I am almost done banding the cheeks and installing the bibs as well.

Jim, I think I got the photos to open correctly? I am limited to 150 mps on the up load?

[threebs]

I am making progress on the masts.
I need to send my new camera in to be serviced. The built in flash is not working.
So, I will be with out this camera for awhile. I will install the dog bones along the hull, by the time I am done with that, I should have the camera back (10 days or so).
OH, And I should have the Halloween table cloth stored away.
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[threebs]

Bob: I want to "rig" it as if it were to carry full sail, that is, all needed blocks in place, but not necessarily in use. I am going to use "Rigging Period Ship Models" by Lennarth Petersson. It seems pretty thorough as well as well illustrated and easy to follow.

A question if you will, How do I get the "keep me logged in" selection to work. It is something of a bother to keep having to log in every time I want to make a post.

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Been a while. I have been conversing with the gentleman who built the USS OHIO that I have provided a link to in a previous post. He has been 10 years building this ship and will finish in time to display it in a new nautical Museum opening in Pennsylvania in April of 2011. I had many questions for him about how he did certain things. Like how he attached his chains. I have done one side now, and will finish the second side in a few days. My camera will not be back from the shop until around the 22nd. So, It will be about then that I post more photos of my ship. I have also made progress on the top and top gallant sections of the masts. I just ordered the book "The Rigging of English ships of war 1620 to 1860". I should be able to get a better idea of what needs to go on the undersides of the mast platforms, or so Steve (name of OHIO builder), suggests and I believe someone on this forum also did. Bob, was that you?
Anyway, I can at least paint the masts before I put on the blocks on the platforms. I find that my mizzen mast is about half an inch to far toward the stern. I hope I can adjust this without it being to obvious. I lines up with the chain plates better if I move it. Don't ask me how this happened, I am scratching my head trying to figure it out my self. There is a yahoo group that is devoted to US Ships of the line that I have been viewing and thinking of posting a few photos of my ship to. If anyone is interested, the link is on this forum on page six posted by PC Coker.

[JIM BAUMANN]

Happy to hear you are making progress!!-

I feel for you with the mast issue...

a few judicious coils of rope ahead of the mast may well deflect attention....


Regards

Jim Baumann