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Calling all IJN Fuso (扶桑) and Yamashiro (山城) fans
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- J. Soca
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Re: Calling all IJN Fuso & Yamashiro fans
i'll check my gakken tonite when i get home Kym,i think i saw something, i know you bought one aready but i'm pretty sure u are itching to start working on it already hehe
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- Kym Knight
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Re: Calling all IJN Fuso & Yamashiro fans
J. Soca wrote:i'll check my gakken tonite when i get home Kym,i think i saw something, i know you bought one aready but i'm pretty sure u are itching to start working on it already hehe
Jose
That's a fact Jose. I've started the rigging and apart from the rear mast can't continue until i get the flag lines done next (too many wires running around them). As Dan said, the level pointed out by the arrows should be the right one, but did they tie off to the rear or the sides?

I was depressed last night, so I rang lifeline. Got a call centre in
Afghanistan and told them I was suicidal.
They got all excited and asked if I could drive a truck.
- J. Soca
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Re: Calling all IJN Fuso & Yamashiro fans
There should be a flag's locker i just dont' see anything on either of those models


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Re: Calling all IJN Fuso & Yamashiro fans
Thanks Jose. The builder seems to have the lanyard wires running in all directions with some even connected to the directors. I think I'll play it safe and use the rear fence of the platform. As for the lockers, maybe the IJN stored them inside the superstructure????

I was depressed last night, so I rang lifeline. Got a call centre in
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They got all excited and asked if I could drive a truck.
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Dan K
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Re: Calling all IJN Fuso & Yamashiro fans
I doubt it; wouldn't make sense to have limited access. The Yamashiro model is 1941, the Fuso is mid 1930s
- Atma
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Re: Calling all IJN Fuso & Yamashiro fans
Here is your 1/350 IJN Yamashiro in a 1943(!) version.
Link:http://www.hlj.com/product/FUJ60006
Link:http://www.hlj.com/product/FUJ60006
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At the moment I dont have the master's from Fujimi, only picturtes and is really a suprise the "1943" version.
If you notice there is a AA platform in the funnel that I dont think there must be one there.
I guess this is a mistake made by the master modeler of Fujimi like he/she/it did with the early pictures of IJN Fuso's.
A fascinating thing about IJN Yamashiro, is that there is no solid information about her equipment (AA, radar etc) from 1943 and onwards.
She might also be the only Japanese Battleship with no type 21 radar(Dan's picture from Ishibashi book for example). But nothing is sure.
Edit:Notice that the model has no AA command platform on top of the pagoda.
Edit:Where in the name of Freddie Mercury is my IJN Hyuga in all gun version ?!
If you notice there is a AA platform in the funnel that I dont think there must be one there.
I guess this is a mistake made by the master modeler of Fujimi like he/she/it did with the early pictures of IJN Fuso's.
A fascinating thing about IJN Yamashiro, is that there is no solid information about her equipment (AA, radar etc) from 1943 and onwards.
She might also be the only Japanese Battleship with no type 21 radar(Dan's picture from Ishibashi book for example). But nothing is sure.
Edit:Notice that the model has no AA command platform on top of the pagoda.
Edit:Where in the name of Freddie Mercury is my IJN Hyuga in all gun version ?!
- Atma
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Re: Calling all IJN Fuso & Yamashiro fans
First releases of IJN Yamashiro from Fujimi in 1/350, will have metal barrels for the main guns (12) and 1/350 japanese figures (same as the IJN Fuso early release).
So hurry up !
So hurry up !
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Notice that the IJN Fuso's from Aoshima have the correct stern deck configuration and not the old shape. And Im talking about the seaplane dec.
The "old" IJN Fuso's was only suitble for IJN Yamashiro.
The "old" IJN Fuso's was only suitble for IJN Yamashiro.
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Dan K
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I'm guessing a 1943 version was chosen because there is a sizeable number of excellent, detailed photos taken in mid 1943 on board Yamashiro that could be used as references. Gakken #30 has about 22-24 pp of these. I agree that there doesn;t seem to be an AA position on the funnel at this time but, I cannot be certain. Definitely no Type 21 radar in 1943.
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That IJN Yamashiro had no type 21 in her entire career is a thing that I start to belive. But its still a matter of doubt.
Thats why I never model IJN Yamashiro in late mode(1943 and onwards) and only early war configuration (1942). I want my ships to be 100% accurate. And IJN Yamashiro is the less documented IJN Battleship.
Also that AA platform in front of the of funnel (just above number 3# turret) is a fault from the "master" modeler of Fujimi. There is no chance that there was a AA platform just above number 3# turret. Im willing to give a IJN Yamashiro in 1/350 for free, to anyone who is gonna prove me wrong.
Thats why I never model IJN Yamashiro in late mode(1943 and onwards) and only early war configuration (1942). I want my ships to be 100% accurate. And IJN Yamashiro is the less documented IJN Battleship.
Also that AA platform in front of the of funnel (just above number 3# turret) is a fault from the "master" modeler of Fujimi. There is no chance that there was a AA platform just above number 3# turret. Im willing to give a IJN Yamashiro in 1/350 for free, to anyone who is gonna prove me wrong.
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Not on the front side of the funnel, correct?
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Re: Calling all IJN Fuso & Yamashiro fans
My pre-order of the 1939 Fuso arrived today from HLJ. Rather stunning in detail, both what is cast into larger parts and the number of smaller parts that were once cast-in details themselves in older molds of this ship. Just lovely.Atma wrote:The full hull Fuso 1938 in 1/700 have been released by the way: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10127414
Unfortunatly the new Fuso in 1938 dosent have the new parts manufactured for 1945 and 1944 Nagato(New barrels for guns, new DP guns new AA guns, new main mast, new funnel etc).
My build pace is so far behind that of new releases in 1:700 - this kit is going to have to sit aside for a while. But my first-look-in-the-box impression is "awestruck."
Also in this order is Aoshima's add-on laser cut deck sheet and PE for the 1938 kit. PE set is reasonably complete - it includes all railings, cable reels, some (but not all) staircases (it adds PE staircases where none exist in plastic, but does not offer replacements for the Aztec stairs cast in plastic), anchor chains and some mast/pagoda detailing. Notably, it also includes the mid-hull tracks for re-boarding the seaplane on the #3 turret and a replacement catapult and bracing for the top of the #3 turret. This area will be a real focal point for the model. Supplemental PE will be needed to replace or add ladders, addresss cast-on staircases, etc. Wood deck is very thin and looks to accomodate well the extensive deck detail on this model.
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Hoping soon for some pictures 
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Atma, I will try to get on that this evening! Sorry to be a tease! 1:700-scale burlesque was not my intention!Atma wrote:Hoping soon for some pictures
I've posted pictures re other builds/models in other fprums on MWS.com, but usually run into file size issues - what I want to upload is larger than 150 kb and then I have to stop, resize, and repost. Slows the process down for me, and thus delays my interactions with this forum.
And then I compare what I do successfully post with what others are able to post and get confused on top of my frustration. Seems that some folks are able to post large, detailed photos that actually require scrolling from side to side to see the full picture.
Are there different picture file size standards? If so, how do I access that ability? Alternatively, perhaps I need to change a camera setting so that pictures intended for this forum are never larger than the file size I intend to post. Or maybe I just need to suck it up and figure out a consistent approach to image file sizing.
Any tips or experience welcome.
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For posting pictures in the forum I usually use free image hosting website Imageshack, and the copy+paste the direct forum link that the Imageshack provides you.
Link for Imageshack:http://imageshack.us/
Link for Imageshack:http://imageshack.us/
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Re: Calling all IJN Fuso & Yamashiro fans
D-boy, please see Method 2 in my post on posting pictures here:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1261
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1261
De quoi s'agit-il?
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Re: Calling all IJN Fuso & Yamashiro fans
Some additional impressions from a closer inspection this morning. Pictures coming tonight!D-Boy wrote:My pre-order of the 1939 Fuso arrived today from HLJ. Rather stunning in detail, both what is cast into larger parts and the number of smaller parts that were once cast-in details themselves in older molds of this ship. Just lovely.Atma wrote:The full hull Fuso 1938 in 1/700 have been released by the way: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10127414
Unfortunatly the new Fuso in 1938 dosent have the new parts manufactured for 1945 and 1944 Nagato(New barrels for guns, new DP guns new AA guns, new main mast, new funnel etc).
My build pace is so far behind that of new releases in 1:700 - this kit is going to have to sit aside for a while. But my first-look-in-the-box impression is "awestruck."
Also in this order is Aoshima's add-on laser cut deck sheet and PE for the 1938 kit. PE set is reasonably complete - it includes all railings, cable reels, some (but not all) staircases (it adds PE staircases where none exist in plastic, but does not offer replacements for the Aztec stairs cast in plastic), anchor chains and some mast/pagoda detailing. Notably, it also includes the mid-hull tracks for re-boarding the seaplane on the #3 turret and a replacement catapult and bracing for the top of the #3 turret. This area will be a real focal point for the model. Supplemental PE will be needed to replace or add ladders, addresss cast-on staircases, etc. Wood deck is very thin and looks to accomodate well the extensive deck detail on this model.
Numerous shared sprues with the other Fuso/Yamashiro kits... the 1938 model is waterline, but includes a spru with the rudders, props, shafts, and shaft braces for the full hull kit. You get three extra main turrets, but only barrels for the six turrets mounted on the model - no barrel spares for the extra turrets. Bow and stern decks for the later rebuild of Fuso are included among the sprues as well. Laser cut deck appears to fit nicely. Dedicated PE from Aoshima is missing some of the tower bracing around stack or rear superstructure (instructions not handy); you'll have to go with the plastic part until an aftermarket PE kit is available.
