Calling all IJN Fuso (扶桑) and Yamashiro (山城) fans

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This is a quick set of initial impressions and photos of the 1:700 Aoshima IJN BB Fuso, circa 1938.

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Aoshima has recently issued three versions of this ship, circa 1938, 1942, and 1944, and apparently has a full-hull kit planned as well, as evidenced by rudder, prop, shafts and shaft braces included in this kit. Aoshima also produces the sister ship Yamashiro circa 1944 and several sprues are shared with this kit as well. Clearly a modular approach to production of these models.

I ordered this kit "Pre-order" from HLJ, and also ordered Aoshima's dedicated add-on kit for the 1938 model which includes laser-cut wood deck and PE. Notably the PE includes tracks and catapult to replace the kit's plastic parts for mid-hull seaplane apparatus. This will be a focal point for the 1938 build of this ship, and the PE for these parts appear to be a significant upgrade over the plastic parts.

Hull and waterline bottom appear common to all four kits.

Dedicated spru for the 1938 deck includes the full hull propeller shaft pieces. The 1938 deck is one piece from bow to main turret 5. A seperate spru comprises the stern deck, which steps down a level and includes the mount for rear-most turret 6. The laser cut wood deck overlays the plastic deck and fittings snugly, with few apparent gaps on the initial fitting. No linoleum on the main decks in the 1938 build.

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Here's a close-up of the rudders and one prop from the full hull kit:

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Here's a close-up of a dedicated spru listed as "1938/Bridge" in the instructions. I suspect the only dedicated parts for the 1938 model is the turret at the center of the spru, which is specialized as the mount for the seaplane catapult, and seaplane storage/loading rails, lower right.

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A few more comments on the turrets. Two additional sprues provide eight total turrets for this kit - but only enough barrels for the six turrets of one ship.

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Next spru is shared among the three versions of this kit; it includes alternate bow and stern decks for the main hull. This spru also contains various cranes and antenna - only half the parts on this spru are used for the 1938 version of the Fuso.

Remaining two sprues are dedicated to the funnel and stern superstructure and iconic pagoda bridge of this vessel.

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Detailing on these parts is impressive, imo.

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The kit rounds out with two generic W2 weapons sprues that provide ships boats, searchlights, and the relatively light AA weaponry on the circa 1938 ship. The kit also includes WL weights, a small decal sheet for aircraft insignia and flags, and pollycaps for rotating turrets.

My initial impressions of the Aoshima PE kit were favorable, and you'll need it for the 1938 build owing to the specialized catapult and aircraft servicing rails mid-deck.

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The PE fret also includes ship rails and some minor pagoda mast detailing.

But it is clear that a Flyhawk Model dedicated PE for this ship is far more comprehensive, and may provide PE replacements for searchlight towers around the stack, etc. of this 1938 build. Both will be needed to truly superdetail the kit, and replace plastic castings in areas where PE provides finer detail, such as on the rear of the pagoda bridge. Not clear to me if the Flyhawk set is fully accurate for the 1938 build - I suspect it was issued for the circa 1944 build, which was first released in 2007. You'll have to evaluate that before you drop $55.00 US at current exchange rates: http://www.hlj.com/product/FLM700008

Thanks to Timmy C for enlightening me to an easier method of picture posting. It should be much easier for me to include pictures with commentary going forward - no more excuses. Will update my Amagi postings next, and then provide some shots of the new Fujimi Kaga.
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Thanks for the pictures D-Boy :thumbs_up_1:
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Yes, thx.

I was going to replay, but we dont have photos. Oh after IJN Yamashiro wich is the most discombobulate japanese warship(from late 1943/early 1944 and onwards), now we are not 100% sure about that too.
First photograph in the Gakken book is a bow on closeup shot of Yamashiro, 1943-44. Degaussing cable is clearly there.
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For the IJN Yamashiro Dan, I wasnt talking about the degaussing cable.
I was reffering to the mystery of her radar suite during mid/late 1944.
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Atma wrote:This one, Dan:
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I just got a sample of IJN Yamashiro in 1/350 by Fujimi and it got the extra AA platform, pointed in my picture by the red arrow.
Anyone knows if that is correct ?
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Which of Aoshima's 1/350 ships would be easier to back date to late 1941 early 1942? Fuso or Yamashiro?
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Aoshima is only making the IJN Fuso class in 1/700, but both of them shall be easy to back date to late 1941 early 1942.
On the IJN Yamashiro Aoshima proved both types of bridges early and late, and I mean the antiair command platform at the top of the pagoda wich is for a 1943 onwards build.
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Aoshima has recently issued three versions of this ship, circa 1938, 1942, and 1944, and apparently has a full-hull kit planned as well (edit: it's already out - see below), as evidenced by rudder, prop, shafts and shaft braces included in this kit. Aoshima also produces the sister ship Yamashiro circa 1944 and several sprues are shared with this kit as well. Clearly a modular approach to production of these models.

Here's a close-up of the rudders and one prop from the full hull kit:

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And just now seen at HLJ's website, the full hull Fuso. Note that this can only be built in the full hull configuration: http://www.hlj.com/product/AOS04980
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Thanks for the close ups D-Boy :thumbs_up_1:
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Does anybody have the instructions to assembly Fujimi Fuso 1:350 P.E. set?
I've bought the premium option set and the parts are numbered but there was no instructions...
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mermaid wrote:Does anybody have the instructions to assembly Fujimi Fuso 1:350 P.E. set?
I've bought the premium option set and the parts are numbered but there was no instructions...
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Let me repeat my self, the new IJN Yamashiro 1943 in 1/350 by Fujimi got the extra AA platfrom on the from of the funnel.
Dunno where that information came to Fujimi, cause I dont knew a picture or source that says so. Anyone can help ?
IJN Yamashiro is the most hard ship to research regarding documentation of her equipment (radar, AA guns etc) after 1943.
Some picture of her from Hobby Link Japan:
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Still cant find any informations from my resources about Fujimi's AA platfrom in the funnl. Anyone got any idea ?

By the way, D-Boy any progress with your IJN Fuso ?
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Atma wrote:Still cant find any informations from my resources about Fujimi's AA platfrom in the funnl. Anyone got any idea ?

By the way, D-Boy any progress with your IJN Fuso ?
Tempting though this may be to start, I have too many builds underway and won't get to this until the fall at earliest.

Amagi is closest to being completed, then Yamato, and I have 4 versions of Nashi/Wakabi to complete for the Cold War build. Among those builds will be my first attempts at PE radar, steps and handrails, as well as a water base for the "as-sunk" version.

But I like 1938 Fuso enough that I hope to prioritize it and my three-deck Akagi later this year.
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Hope to see some pictures in the gallery of your build then :thumbs_up_1:
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i've always seen yamashiro's pagoda more sturdier than Fuso's for some reason, looks good i must say well with the exception of the extra gun plaform on the funnel :heh: its a shame there are not alot of sources on Yamashiro i think.. one of the reasons i want Fuso is because i have th AOTS which is by far one of the most complete references on the ship 41 and prior the war.. nevetheless i'm still thinking about shiro. Anyone knows another source besides AOTS and Gakken 30?


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For the same reason I ended make my 1/700 IJN Yamashiro in a 1942 configuration, sadly everything beyond 1942 regarding IJN Yamashiro is obscured. IJN Yamashiro after 1943 till the time she sunk,
is the less documented Imperial Japanaese Battleship of WWII.
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3 more reference:
model art 24 (1915, 1930, 1938, 1943, 1944), not aots but ...
profile morskie 92 (1944) very detailed
a paper model (halinsky 1992) 1:300
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The Japanese battleship "bible" (Illustrated Ship's Data of IJN 1868-1945, Vol. 1/Battleships and Battlecruisers, by Takao Ichibashi, 2007) has single-page-size Yamashiro plans for 1942 and 1944.
FWIW, no AA platform by the funnel is shown in either.

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Thank you very much guys :thumbs_up_1:



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