Calling all HMS Repulse & HMS Renown fans

[Chuck Bauer]

Yes, thank you, I'm headed for the library on Saturday.

Chuck

[AndyP]

Hey Guys

does anyone have an idea what colour the fo'castle was on repulse during the 1920's? was it just painted AP507A or would it be something bit darker?

cheers

[Guest]

Not sure exactly, but many modelers paint the deck the same color as the metal decks in other areas of the ship. Usually a medium/dark gray

[Chuck Bauer]

I obtained From Suez to Singapore by Cecil Brown via interlibrary transfer. The chapter on the demise of the Repulse is very interesting. Through this same means I obtained Raven and Roberts British Battleships of World War II and it is amazing. Hope this is not too old news for some of you who have been on this thread longer than me.

--Chuck B

[Chuck Bauer]

This is a one time test to see if i can send images to Model Warships, and also to show I am actually working on the dang thing.

[dick]

Spot the difference (or rather absence of).....

[Chuck Bauer]

Absence of an off-white panel? Hmmm...
I'll check this thread again and all the photographs, books, etc I've been using.

--Chuck

[dick]

That one showed her before her mid July-Aug 41 refit at Rosyth. Note also she carried a Swordfish at that time, not a Walrus.

If you are doing her after her Rosyth refit (when she carried a Walrus) the same applies:

[Chuck Bauer]

Wow, THANK YOU for this information. It was and is my intention to build her as close as possible to "as sunk" so this color issue is very important to me.

[Andrew F]

Hi Chuck,

Have a look at this thread.
viewtopic.php?f=60&t=44007

There are a raft of errors in the Trumpeter model if you are wanting to make her "as sunk". Many are addressed here.

Andrew

[Chuck Bauer]

Thanks Andrew,
Some months ago I stumbled into this thread and kind of forgot about it. What I now remember is being intimidated by the depth of research that was done, how much kit correction could be needed, and what sort of skills would be required to execute everything. (Yikes!)
Nonetheless, I have been quietly plugging away, using what I could from these pages and others. (For example I did purchase four different PE sets and two gun barrel sets, and have been co-mingling them as I go along.)
All I can say at this point is that my modeling skills and patience are being stretched and my craving for historical detail has been well satisfied. Hopefully, in all this, a decent model will be produced, which would mean a rewarding experience.

I will keep this thread handy as I tackle what's yet to be done.

Thank you again for your kind attention and inspiration.

--Chuck B.

[Ady]

Don't know if you guys have already seen it or not but I found a great picture of the Repulse at Haifa in 1938, a time when she looked her best in my opinion. Enjoy.

Adrian

[corpsman]

How accurate is the Trumpeter 1942 Renown kit for 1941, Bismarck chase? How much has to be changed to make her for the Bismarck chase?

Gus
Semper Fi

[Mike E.]

All:

I recently acquired the Trumpeter 1/700 HMS Renown 1945 kit (05765), which shows Renown in her post-12/44-1/45 refit appearance (though the box art is in error, as she wore the tri-color scheme shown on the box top just prior to this refit, after which she was painted in an admiralty standard scheme of overall light gray with a medium blue panel on her hull, and blue turrets).

I have been looking for reliable references for Renown in this timefreme. A lot of the published drawings that purport to show Renown in this timeframe are not completely accurate, as they show the admiral's shelter atop the aft portion of the bridge, under the dual HA/LA director platform, in an earlier configuration. As best I can determine, after the 2/44-6/44 refit, the admiral's shelter was reconfigured as a rectangular, box-shaped structure whose large windows had been replaced by a single porthole on the port and starboard side. (On the model, the admiral's shelter has large windows on the face of the shelter, though I could find no photographic evidence for this--though this does not mean it is incorrect as such).

Looking at what's out there, I have come to the conclusion that the most accurage drawings of Renown during this period are those in Alan Raven and John Roberts, "British Warships of the Second World War: A Folio of Authentic Scale Plans." I spoke to Alan Raven recently about the sources he used in drawing these plans, in order to verify the accuracy of his drawings. He stated that he used three sources:

1) The "as fitted" plans from the earlier 9/36-/39 refit, with wartime A&As penciled in over the original plans.
2) Wartime photos of Renown.
3) The Imperial War Museum model of Renown in her late-war fit by Julian Glossop.

According to Raven, to research this model, Glossop visited Renown before she was taken to the breakers. (Not all of Glossop's models show such attention to detail, however; his IWM model of HMS Exeter incorporates numerous errors--but to be fair, that is likely because Exeter was sunk in 1942, and as far as can be determined, drawings showing wartime A&As did not survive the war.) Raven had the model removed from its display case and he took measurements from the model for two days, to help ensure the accuracy of his drawing.

A photo of this marvelous model can be seen in P. C. Coker, Building Warship Models, p. 188. I don't believe that model is on display at the IWM any more. What a shame.

So I think that Alan Ravens' plans in "British Warships of the Second World War: A Folio of Authentic Scale Plans" is probably the most reliable source for those looking to build Renown in her later-war appearance. I hope that this helps those modelers desiring to build this kit.

And thanks to Richard Dennis for pointing out an error in an earlier version of this posting.

Yours truly,

Mike E.

[dick]

...and not forgetting those lighter blue main turrets in Renown's final scheme.

[Chuck Bauer]

Switching back to Repulse,
Does anybody know anything about "semaphores" that were located in front of the forward funnel?

[EJFoeth]

I have a series of excellent images waiting for a new blog post, used for a set of custom pe parts. I can post when interested (on vacation now).

[Chuck Bauer]

Thanks for the reply. It's too late to install them on my model anyway. I had forgotten about them and recently became curious again about what they were. Enjoy your vacation and I'll look forward to your information.

[EJFoeth]

Thanks for the reply. It's too late to install them on my model anyway. I had forgotten about them and recently became curious again about what they were. Enjoy your vacation and I'll look forward to your information.

Semaphores are quite smal and easy to add afterwards

[mermaid]

Question on P.E. for 1:350 Repulse. Which one is remarkable?

The kit has many inacciracies according to the forum. And its armament parts are terrible.
I bought a Lion Roar one, plus planning to acquire an Admiralty Model Works. Any valuable suggestions?