I tried to hollow out the resin undersides to give an impression of the metal plates--and it looked ok--but then.... well
Paper and brass slivers just looked sharper!!
I have opened up the spotting top with metal frame windows, added bits here and added bits there, thinned stuff down and chopped other stuff away...
You are braver than I. While I could muddle my way through some of the things you do, I don't have the time or the patience. Kudos to you for all the extras you are doing.
I seem to have an unhealthy fascination with the RN's slightly oddball vessels - Abercrombie/Roberts, Engadine, Eagle, Rodney/Nelson, Agincourt and particularly Furious when she had the 18" turret.
On that subject, is there a kit out there (or planned) of Furious in that fit, or a conversion pack perhaps?
Any information or ideas you have would be much appreciated.
Guest wrote:On that subject, is there a kit out there (or planned) of Furious in that fit, or a conversion pack perhaps?
Admiralty Model Works had announced a Furious in this fit as part of an ambitious release schedule a few years back, but I haven't heard anything recently.
Martin
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." John Wayne
I guess I'll just have to sit tight and wait for the moment - there are plenty of oddball ships ahead of her in my model queue at the moment, so no hurry!
Gerarddm wrote:Well, I have just started in on Courageous, and have two questions for fellow builders, or Pavel if he's listening:
A) PE part 27 is a hull paravane I believe, but this part has an attached ladder to it. Yet the drawings and plans show this same paravane without any such ladder extention. Which is correct?
Is it a frame to store the fitting on to? Or is it a ladder to access to paravane? While some where lain on the deck in a frame of sorts, some where fixed onto the ships superstructure.
B) The box top art and the elevations show a vertical strake on the hull port and starboard, lined up with the rear of the tower. This strake looks like it ends in a small deck box. Query: there is no part for this strake, and no mention of it in the plans themselves. So, what is it? Maybe I should just fabricate a pair our of sheet styrene?
In British battleships of WW1, Burt has under Appearance Changes after Jutland while still under construction... Other modifications included:
Steel strips (Etna) and coconut matting to weather decks and other positions as applicable, 9 tons added. Another name for Coconut matting is coir matting.
Here is a poor photo I took of a picture hanging in Edinburgh Castle
Here is the same picture by WW1 artist Charles Pears from the IWM collection
Note the brown coconut matting next to the mine laying rails. Anyone for Coir Brown decks?
Tackling Furious Carrier ver by loose cannon here. Q regarding the superstructure, is furious's much different to her sisters? The 2 kit parts on top of the conning tower (what I call oreo pieces) looks a little odd to me as they appear wider than from photos and has wrong shaped/number of baffles
Is there any documented difference in this level compared to those of her half sisters Courageous/Glorious? I'm tempted to scratch build based on the dimensions of the admiralty model works kit parts, would that be a good idea?
varifleman wrote:Hello Jim; excellent work. Do you have instructions or a program that will print the excellent deflection scales hat you can share?
Starfighter Decals did a set of deflection scales at one time. Contact Mark Tutton at Starfighter, he may be able to print for you to buy.
Martin
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." John Wayne
For some time now I have been planning the construction of a 1:700 scale model of Furious as completed as a seaplane carrier My first thought was to use one of Admiralty Model Works's kits of the half-sisters, preferably starting with Gglorious, since there is no minelaying gear on the quarterdeck. I was thrown off for quite a time by the difference in beam between Furious and Glorious: 88 feet versus 81 feet, which is 1/8-inch when working in 1:700 scale. I then thought of backdating the Loose Cannon 1918 Furious, since this would have the slightly beamier hull.
While working on this, I noticed that, while Furious had a greater beam and larger displacement, it drew a foot less, and began to wonder why. I was able to access the body plans for Glorious and Furious as designed, and started making measurements. As far as I can tell, the beam on the upper deck of both ships is identical. The difference in beam is entirely below the waterline, where Furious has anti-torpedo bulges that are four feet deeper than those of its half-sisters. This also would broadly explain why Furious draws less water. Unless I am wholly mistaken, this seems to clear the way for using the Admiralty Model Works kit as a basis.
Does anybody know what was the Linoleum deck colour of these light Battlecruisers in their original pre carrier form? Especially of that HMS Furious?
My friend could only provide this:
"The deck was almost certainly intended to be linoleum, but I have no idea as to what colour it might have been. I have always assumed some sort of brown colour to more represent the traditional wood it was used instead of: But I don�t know for sure. I would expect that a very dark colour as shown in the photo linked to have publicly raised the hackles of the traditionalists, but I am unaware of any resultant comments made about the colour. Looking at the black and white photos in Burt�s British Battleships of WW1, it seems that the linoleum colour is of a somewhat darker shade than the traditional deck planking but nowhere near as dark as shown in the linked drawing. I am attaching four photos. The first is from Burt�s British Battleships of WW1 and shows the pattern of the installed linoleum on the quarter and forecastle decks of Courageous. The other three photos are of the Courageous ships plans and shows the linoleum covering the same decks. The pattern shown is different from what was installed (I see some photos of Courageous� decks which confirms the pattern Burt shows)."
