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PoW May 1941

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Thank you for the confirmation!! Now will drill it out!!
More questions - is there railing on the aft HACS platorm?
Warship 12 has a picture of DoY dated 1958 and I see a ladder from the
boat deck up to the HACS platorm. Is this accurate for 1941 and would
ladders be on P&S?
Sorry bout placing topic in wrong area!! Meant to put under KGV but. . .
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I don't think so my dwgs show 2 wt doors in the front side (flat side) most likely internal stairway(s) Also the rails only go near the directors not around them.
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JCRAY, do I understand you correctly that the aft HACS deck has railing forward up to/in front of the mast and the P&S opening between the director and the structure on the HACS platform?
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The Shipcraft book has a picture of that area on page 54. I'm sure it can be found on line in the IWM archives. PM sent ! hth
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Sorry do not own the Shipcraft book and have no idea where to go for the IWM archives. Heck, what is �IWM�?
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Sorry! its the Imperial War Museum it has many of the photos we see in books. I sent you a PM directing you to a build in the gallery, its a latter period than your build but you can see the areas you asked about. hth
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KGV May 1941

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Reviewing the PR Dodson 1939 KGV, I have a question as to whether or not a ladder from the top of the aft HACS deck down to the boat deck was still around in May 1941. The ladder comes down a short distance then breaks for a platform and then the ladder continues down to the boat deck. It also shows a door under the ladder, on the port side. I already have the two doors together and on the starboard side.
As I am using the Tamiya PoW kit for the KGV, would the life raft placement be the same for both ships in May 1941?
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Hi , I have a 1/700 Taimya Prince of Wales, that I would like to do as HMS Anson in 1946, any good picture sources of information, and what are the differences between her and POW. structually? I have also an old completed Taimya KGV which I intend to use as a source of spares/ Extra parts
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REC wrote:Hi , I have a 1/700 Taimya Prince of Wales, that I would like to do as HMS Anson in 1946, any good picture sources of information, and what are the differences between her and POW. structually? I have also an old completed Taimya KGV which I intend to use as a source of spares/ Extra parts
I've mis-placed by copy of Tarrant's reference work right now (curse 'cleaning up'), but off the top of my head:
  • The hanger's and catapults will require reworking,
  • The radar and EW fitouts will be different,
  • A dramatically different AA fitout,
  • I'm guessing different directors, and
  • Minor detail changes to the main superstructure
Note there was a small refit in Sydney in 1946, (I know some AA was removed) so you will have to place the date pre- or post- this refit.

I'll find that book and put up some more soon.
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Linz wrote:I'm guessing different directors
KGV and PoW completed with MK-IV AA directors. The other three completed with MK-V's. However, Anson later upgraded to MK-VI's, the only unit in the class to do so.
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Thanks, ?? post 1945 wasn`t most of the light AA removed??
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Hi , I am building 1/300 Prince of Wales the as she was in December 1941. I have problem, i don't have schemes camouflage may by You have any good picture sources of information. This is my Battleship:
http://www.konradus.com/forum/read.php? ... r=0&page=1

May by You have old instruction plastic model. Please help me.
Sorry my English is not good.
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Hi Marek, these photo's are of PoW at Singapore in December 1941, hope they help,,,
hms_prince_of_wales_12.JPG
PoW at Singapore.JPG
UK-RAF-II-2.JPG
illustr_british_ships_hms_pow2.GIF
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To the person who posted the question about how the boats on the Duke of York were painted at the time of North Cape, please re-post, I accidentally whacked your post while deleting a bunch of SPAM. My apologies!
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MartinJQuinn wrote:To the person who posted the question about how the boats on the Duke of York were painted at the time of North Cape, please re-post, I accidentally whacked your post while deleting a bunch of SPAM. My apologies!
Hey everybody I guess this won't be word for word the same as earlier but I was wondering about the color of the lifeboats in RN service, particularly those of the Duke of York around the time of the battle of north cape.
I'm building a 1:144 DOY for RC warship combat. & I'll be starting on a HMS Nelson (or Rodney) soon.
I have seen blue/white on the larger boats & gray or black on others & all gray all black etc.

Thank you very much... Pictures are coming soon.

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I ordered the Revel HMS Iron Duke and just today I received, sadly is the old kit. Im not going to build it so if anyone needs it PM me !
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Which ships and what year can be built out of the Tamiya 1/350 KGV kit. I would like to build one of the class in the wild Mediterranean camouflage schemes they wore.
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drdoom1337 wrote:Which ships and what year can be built out of the Tamiya 1/350 KGV kit. I would like to build one of the class in the wild Mediterranean camouflage schemes they wore.
Anything after mid-44 would be fine (with some detail differences between KGV, GoY, Anson and Howe. Pretty much restricts you to BPF and post-war schemes.

KGV has no hangers (the boat deck replaces them) and as such is post-refit. PoW was never fitted as such, Like wise DoY at North Cape still had Walrus'.
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Linz wrote:
drdoom1337 wrote:Which ships and what year can be built out of the Tamiya 1/350 KGV kit. I would like to build one of the class in the wild Mediterranean camouflage schemes they wore.
Anything after mid-44 would be fine (with some detail differences between KGV, GoY, Anson and Howe. Pretty much restricts you to BPF and post-war schemes.

KGV has no hangers (the boat deck replaces them) and as such is post-refit. PoW was never fitted as such, Like wise DoY at North Cape still had Walrus'.
I'm thinking about the same thing myself. As far as I can tell, the only ship that had a camo pattern after the refit that deleted the catapults (and thus appropriate to the Tamiya KGV kit) is HMS Howe in mid- to late-1944. There is a photo of her in this scheme on page 63 of the Shipcraft book (and it's also been posted earlier in this thread) I am particularly curious about the AA fit for this period; it's clear that not all the single 20mm tubs on the fore and aft decks that Tamiya's KGV contains are present, and the refit table on the same page mentions 4 twin 20mm among the guns at the time - which might be there on the fantail. Hard to tell. Does anyone know of a plan view or other decent reference for Howe's AA layout at this period?

For a good camo pattern on any other member of the class, you'd need to start with the PoW kit so you'd have the catapults.

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