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I'm doing Konig in 1/350, probably going to build pre-Jutland with the better looking main mast and torpedo net booms. Anyway, other than this thread, can someone point me to a photo gallery for this class? WWI stuff always is hard to find. Also, I might be wrong, but are all of these little circular holes on the deck skylights? There seem to be a million of them. WEM includes brass covers for them in their PE...
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I think those are coal chutes.
- Sean F.
drdoom1337 wrote:I'm doing Konig in 1/350, probably going to build pre-Jutland with the better looking main mast and torpedo net booms. Anyway, other than this thread, can someone point me to a photo gallery for this class? WWI stuff always is hard to find. Also, I might be wrong, but are all of these little circular holes on the deck skylights? There seem to be a million of them. WEM includes brass covers for them in their PE...
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SeanF wrote:I think those are coal chutes.
- Sean F.
drdoom1337 wrote:I'm doing Konig in 1/350, probably going to build pre-Jutland with the better looking main mast and torpedo net booms. Anyway, other than this thread, can someone point me to a photo gallery for this class? WWI stuff always is hard to find. Also, I might be wrong, but are all of these little circular holes on the deck skylights? There seem to be a million of them. WEM includes brass covers for them in their PE...
Yes, according to Jim Baumann, its coal scuttles... not deck hatches.
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JIM BAUMANN wrote:The WEM set is -- in my view superior- in every way for pre-Jutland fit- apart from the funnel grilles...

( the GMM items are more correct)

The rails are much finer, and you get decent boat details for the motorboats., net shelves and brailing davits for the nets.


When I built my Koenig back in 2001 ...I used both PE sets, with the GMM set supplying only a few parts.

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

As usual--its better to have more PE sets than just one--you can then pick and choose what you want to use/discard

Good luck


Jim Baumann
Hi Jim,

How did you install the PE net shelves ? First the "L" shelves in the hull and then the shelves itself or did you build the "L shelves" and the shelves together... and then glue it on the hull ?
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Thanks Eric Bergerud :thumbs_up_1:
I will start building my 1/700 Combrig's SMS Kronprinz Wilhelm soon enough.
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Nice document of 45 mn. who explain roles played by submarines in the evolution of the SMS and HMS battleships conception and history, from dreadnought till last classes of Jutland battle, including some strange monsters invented by mad strategists...
(in french, interviews are in english).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et-KEeba ... re=related
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frenchinamst wrote:Nice document of 45 mn. who explain roles played by submarines in the evolution of the SMS and HMS battleships conception and history, from dreadnought till last classes of Jutland battle, including some strange monsters invented by mad strategists...
(in french, interviews are in english).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et-KEeba ... re=related
Already disabled, unfortunately.

Could you remember what was the title of the film?
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here again... in a new link
try "les tueurs des mers" search in youtube or dailymotion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbSJFoDMP1c
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Anyone know offhand.....is the Aoshima Konig a new tool or copy / rebox of the ICM kit?

Pros / cons between them if anyone has or has seen both kits to compare?

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It's just a rebox with PE railings.
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On behalf of J�rgen Waldmann a link to his model: http://modellbau.se-ts.de/Markgraf/index.html

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What's the scale on the Konig displayed? Sure doesn't look like the ICM I grew to love (or not).
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Timmy C wrote:It's just a rebox with PE railings.
Drat.....thanks Timmy...
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In all honesty, unless you're a real fan of the High Seas Fleet, I'd pass on the ICM ship. It was showing it's age and was certainly not up to modern standards. Both Trumpie and Zvezda have a Dreadnought (I'm betting Trumpie will come out with a 1/350 Queen - they've got them in 700). And a rooskie Dread. I know they weren't at Jutland and Konig was, but unless you're keen on raised lines, bad fit and soap-soft plastic you might give the new kits a close look. I'm glad I built my Konig, but would never knowingly build another ancient battleship in that scale (he says after spending four months on Glencoe's Oregon - a model that might have been built right after the Spanish-American War.) Heroic modelers will probably differ.
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Eric Bergerud wrote:What's the scale on the Konig displayed? Sure doesn't look like the ICM I grew to love (or not).

1/100th scale. Bye!
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[quote="frenchinamst]
Yes, according to Jim Baumann, its coal scuttles... not deck hatches.[/quote]

What is the proper color for coal scuttles?
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Procedural question concerning the Torpedo net stowage davits from the WEM set.
I'm considering using a ArtWox wood deck, should I install the Torpedo davits before or after the deck is laid down?

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