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Thanks Atma for the news on the wood deck for QE in 1/350.

I think I will be waiting for the full add on as there are some major things that need sorting in my veiw.
Admiral GB has found one, I to have the pontos add on for Warspite, having not checked it yet its nice to know there are extra's in it. :wave_1:
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I think I have seen this photo before, but it is still a very nice image of HMS QUEEN ELIZABETH in June 1943. Found at NARA in 80-G collection. Timely with the new kit.

(I didn't check to see if it has been posted here already ... too many pages to check. :smallsmile: )

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Artwox decks for both of the Trumpeter QE's are now in stock at Lucky model. Just ordered mine. Worked out at around �15 for the 1/350 and �9 for the 1/700! Bargain!!


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Roger Torgeson found this photo of Warspite at the US National Archives last week, while scanning photos of the USS Mackinac:
Roger Torgeson wrote:Any time I scan photos taken at the Puget Sound Navy Yard during the time period HMS Warspite was present for repairs at the National Archive in College Park I keep my eyes open for any background views of her and last week while I was busy scanning a number of photos of the small seaplane tender Mackinac AVP-13 fitting out during her building I had the good luck to find what I think is an unknown view of Warspite.
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Received my the Trumpeter 1/700 QE, it's a beauty nonetheless the depicted year (1918) is not too meaningful. What is the potential to:

- date back to year 1915 (Battle of Dardanelles)?
- convert to other sisters to depict them in Battle of Jutland? any significant differences between the sisters?

plus, can the WEM 1/700 QE PE set be used on the kit? is it worth the money?
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When built, and as deployed to the Dardanelles, QUEEN ELIZABETH had a sternwalk; the four main deck 6" guns were still fitted abreast "Y" 15" turret; the small platform below the foretop was absent; the middle bridge (platform depicted in the kit with four searchlights) was smaller and only carried two searchlights; there was a searchlight on each side of the after superstructure and none on the centreline; no searchlight on the mainmast, and the associated platforms had not been fitted: the searchlight towers on the after funnel had not been fitted as per the kit; there was a smaller, lower platform for two searchlights on the after side of the after funnel. She had nets draped below the foretop, and a false bow-wave painted on. Due to shortages, she only had one 3" AA gun - the other was temporarily replaced by a 3pdr gun (I'm afraid I don't know which side this was).
Most of the class had a variety of changes to their searchlight locations before the Battle of Jutland.
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tjstoneman wrote:When built, and as deployed to the Dardanelles, QUEEN ELIZABETH had a sternwalk; the four main deck 6" guns were still fitted abreast "Y" 15" turret; the small platform below the foretop was absent; the middle bridge (platform depicted in the kit with four searchlights) was smaller and only carried two searchlights; there was a searchlight on each side of the after superstructure and none on the centreline; no searchlight on the mainmast, and the associated platforms had not been fitted: the searchlight towers on the after funnel had not been fitted as per the kit; there was a smaller, lower platform for two searchlights on the after side of the after funnel. She had nets draped below the foretop, and a false bow-wave painted on. Due to shortages, she only had one 3" AA gun - the other was temporarily replaced by a 3pdr gun (I'm afraid I don't know which side this was).
Most of the class had a variety of changes to their searchlight locations before the Battle of Jutland.
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Thanks you for information. It seems a lot of work will need to be done for these purposes. With limited reference on hand, I think I will most likely stick to the kit for a straightforward build.
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Anyone know what the interior of the Warspite's funnel would look like in '43? Besides EJ's photo of a funnel, I can't find any details. Other than a crosswalk, would there be any significant details that would show?
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The Trumpeter kit of the QE shows pipes but they are inside and I assume the Warspite would have the same configeration.

This is for 1943 versions.

Not sure if this helps. :smallsmile:
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any body got a pic?
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Both Pontos and WEM PE sets have funnel internals included. Not sure of their accuracy, but hey, who would know better?
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Images of funnel interiors are very rare. For my Hood model I came up with what I wrote here. I'm reasonably sure the walkway in the funnel is correct, but I have no information on pipes.
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Hi, hope someone can help. I have the Academy Warspite, WEM PE, and Pontos wooden deck. I notice that the design of the catapult additions are very different - WEM appears to be open, whereas Pontos appears to be closed over with a cover. However, I have seen pictures of both designs with a Walrus on a cradle atop the catapult. I would really like to know which design is more accurate and why the difference. Many thanks for any help you can give. John :smallsmile:
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Early to mid 1943 the planes were removed from most (if not all RN capital ships). Am assuming Pontos are giving modellers
a choice. I built mine using the Pontos deck and PE, and intend to display a Walrus plane separately. The WEM PE was also very
useful as a back up, as i found the pontos set was very soft, with some of the parts breaking when trying to bend.
Hope this helps.
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PS Pontos, your Warspite set is terrific and this is in no way meant as a critique.
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Hi Kurt.
Sorry for the delay on a picture of QE from trumpeter Funnel detail.

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This shows a basic pipe detail from Trumpeters manual of HMS QE.

Hope this helps some. :smallsmile:
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Anyone can help and guide me as to what corrections/modifications shall I need to make to represent HMS Queen Elizabeth 1918 from Trumpeter in 1/700 for a same period HMS Malaya ?
Thanks in advance.
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By the way an interesting release, Academy has a Premium edition (wooden deck, PE set and brass barrels) of HMS Warspite in 1/350, check it out:
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10184491
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Do you have Burt's battleship book? He treats the differences between the R-class vessels is detail.
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I was looking the differences beween HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Malaya in 1918 not the HMS Revenge class.
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Right, my mistake. Still, Burt treats the QEs as well and shows Malaya in her 1919, 1926, and 1930 configurations in side/top views and with deck layouts. Burt does mention that the bridge work is similar for all 5 ships around 1918 but for Malaya he writes: lower yard on fore below starfish, gaff well below starfish. No drawing of QE itself is included though.
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