Calling all IJN Carrier fans (class comparisons)

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Re: Calling all IJN Carrier fans

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Vladi wrote:Hi all,
does anyone have any recommendation for a color mix for the bei-matsu pine used on IJN carrier decks - preferably based on Tamiya or GSI acrylics? I spent a whole day trying to find a match but I am not happy with any of the results...
Thanks a lot!
to tell you the truth pine wood is a real yellowish brown type of wood. the brown in it is a light brown but this would be as first plained and fastened to the deck. after weather conditions the wood would start to turn a dark brown and then eventualy a gray color but they would never let it get gray.
when i was in the navy I went on board the Battleship Iowa for a tour in Norfolk VA from a friend i made there stationed aboard. They have what you call a hollyblock. Its a big piece of looked like granite rock that they scrape the wood with to return the yellow color to it.
I have no doubt the Japanese had as well.
I know in the navy there is strict disciple to take care of the ships. Rust is chipped even at sea and the ship repainted. Its a personal pride not to let your ship look like a "Scow".
Now if there is allot of flight ops then it is hard to scape the flight deck wood. So it is up to you on when you wanna model the deck.
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Re: Calling all IJN Carrier fans

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Dear Dennis,
thanks for your remarks, you are indeed right about the scraping procedures. I returned to building kits after some years but I have been using weathering techniques on aircraft and ships during my youth times. One can see the status of the deck on many photos (like those from the Pearl Harbour attack), what is very difficult to judge is the colors. And I have never seen aged beimatsu pine wood - though the floor in the room where I build models is "ordinary" pine :)
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Old growth pine is golden tan with orangish overtones. I do not believe that there is a paint out-of-the-bottle that matches it exactly.
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Dear colleagues, have anybody of you seen photos of removable railings around the IJN carrier elevators � I mean a sort of railings similar to those were in use on the USN Essex class? I had no chance up to now to see them on the IJN carriers.

I am trying to read now the new Kojinsha IJN Aircraft carriers volume using OCR and automatic translation utilities. There is the Junyo 1942 deck drawing there (p.106) which is depicting, or rather describing, something like a �removable� or �taken-away� railings around elevators (#20 picture item).
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To be honest, I've only seen it around Junyo's elevators, postwar. I think these may be set by hand.
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Thanks, Dan. I deleted that item #20 from my Junyo 1942 "translation".
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Fujimi to release 1/700 Ryuho 1942 and 1945 in June:
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10182384
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10182385
De quoi s'agit-il?
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Its based on Pit-Road's aborted plan for a 1/700 IJN Ryuho by the way.
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Cool! :cool_2: I am definitely getting the 1942 Ryuho! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:




Bob Pink. :wave_1:
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Dose anyone know the difference between fujimis Hosho 1942 and there new Hosho 1944 kit?
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redoctober27 wrote:Dose anyone know the difference between fujimis Hosho 1942 and there new Hosho 1944 kit?
July 1944:
four 140 mm guns are removed and the HOSHO's flight deck is lengthened as long as possible in an effort to improve her utility by accomodating newer plane needs.

See pictures here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_a ... 8Dsh%C5%8D
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Fujimi will release IJN Unryu 1944 version and a IJN Unryu Final Version, wich is the version with optional parts for the rest of IJN Unryu class air craft carriers(IJN Amagi, IJN Katsuragi, IJN Kasagi, IJN Aso and IJN Ikoma).
All this at June together with Aoshima's version of IJN Unryu 1944.
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This is pretty unbelievable, particularly is Aoshima has actually retooled its versions. I'm ready to dump my PitRoad's.
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Crickey, those two certainly step on each other's toes, don't they?

If only this was one of those instances when competition brings prices down, but I'm not that gullible.

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I really miss the good ol' days when each manufacurer made a certain ship. Now there are so many choices that my head is swimming.

Plus manufacturers like Aoshima who used to be terrible are making some of the best kits today. I just can't keep up.

Maybe I'll just quit buying anything new and put together some of my stuff that has been on the shelf for 35 years.
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And finnaly the IJN Hosho 1944 by Fujimi is out:
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10179683
Enjoy :thumbs_up_1:

Notice that it comes with a PE set :smallsmile:
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Damn you Fujimi, now I must have it!

Geno... that's what I'm trying to do. Putting together the old models in my stash...

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Inbox review of Fujimi's new Hosho: http://mokehana.blog34.fc2.com/blog-entry-345.html

Indicates that while the inbox PE set is extensive, there is still more that can be bought separately, such as railings.
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Re: Calling all IJN Carrier fans

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Atma wrote:Its based on Pit-Road's aborted plan for a 1/700 IJN Ryuho by the way.
It seems that finally Pit-Road decides to release the IJN Ryuho in the same way like Fujimi in 1/700, an early war version:
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10192444
and a late war version:
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10192443


Fujimi is also planing a same release:
Early war:http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10182384
and late war:http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10182385
It will be interest to compare them when they will be released.


Its strange, 4 new tooled 1/700 IJN Ryuho but still no IJN Hiyo and no retooled IJN Junyo
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Re: Calling all IJN Carrier fans

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And no new-tool IJN Zuiho & Shoho...
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