Calling all RM Littorio-class fans!
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- Stefano
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Re: Calling all RM Vittorio Veneto-class fans!
I am considering transforming a 1/350 Roma into a 1/350 UP41, Secondo!
It can be done....
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Re: Calling all RM Vittorio Veneto-class fans!
The 1934 UP 41 or the Russian version ?
Isn't the bow era more similar with the first two Littorio class than with the modified Roma in both versions ?
Isn't the bow era more similar with the first two Littorio class than with the modified Roma in both versions ?
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Atma wrote:The 1934 UP 41 or the Russian version ?
Isn't the bow era more similar with the first two Littorio class than with the modified Roma in both versions ?
The 1936 version as built for the RM, thus including all the improvement provided in the RN Roma.
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Thomas E. Johnson
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Re: Calling all RM Vittorio Veneto-class fans!
Without reading through this whole thread, is the Trumpy 1/350 kit accurate to 85%-90% of whats known about the real ship? I just ordered the kit.
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To sum it up, the errors are:
- The underwater hull must be painted green, not red: the painting instructions are misleading.
- There are too many lifeboats!
I'm not sure about the height of the auxiliary rudders and a lot of other things such as the gun barrels' profile. But I don't have the kit to compare it with the drawings so I can't tell what is wrong.
Light AA could benefit from a lot of extra detail, but this is not an error, just an inaccuracy.
- The underwater hull must be painted green, not red: the painting instructions are misleading.
- There are too many lifeboats!
I'm not sure about the height of the auxiliary rudders and a lot of other things such as the gun barrels' profile. But I don't have the kit to compare it with the drawings so I can't tell what is wrong.
Light AA could benefit from a lot of extra detail, but this is not an error, just an inaccuracy.

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Re: Calling all RM Vittorio Veneto-class fans!
Well, all the docs about the finding of the RN wreck now available here (68MB of historical pictures + 153MB of pictures about the finding operations, no actual picture of the wreck, it seems, with the exception of the left external propeller)
https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B4Jmo ... edit?pli=1
https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B4Jmo ... edit?pli=1
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Re: Calling all RM Vittorio Veneto-class fans!
PE from Eduard is now available for Trumpeter's 1:700 ROMA 1943 kit. It's listed on their site as well as Stevens International's.... Is anyone aware if Flyhawk intends on doing PE for this kit?..... THAT I would like to see, someday. Probably after I've purchased the Eduard set it'll be released.... That's my luck.
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What color green?Secondo wrote:The underwater hull must be painted green, not red: the painting instructions are misleading..
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- Secondo
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A medium green, I don't know the FSMartinJQuinn wrote: What color green?

Lifecolor has the paint in its products list, code UA 617, named "verde scuro antivegetativo"
Here's the paint chip


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Re: Calling all RM Vittorio Veneto-class fans!
A great collection of Roma photos can be downloaded from here (Corazzata Roma Foto Storiche): https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B4Jmo ... htdlU/edit
The link was posted on the unofficial Italian Navy's Roma wreck page: http://www.marina.difesa.it/Conosciamoc ... aroma.aspx
The link was posted on the unofficial Italian Navy's Roma wreck page: http://www.marina.difesa.it/Conosciamoc ... aroma.aspx
De quoi s'agit-il?
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So there are no major structural errors then. Its just adding or reducing various details, and using the correct colors?Secondo wrote:To sum it up, the errors are:
- The underwater hull must be painted green, not red: the painting instructions are misleading.
- There are too many lifeboats!
I'm not sure about the height of the auxiliary rudders and a lot of other things such as the gun barrels' profile. But I don't have the kit to compare it with the drawings so I can't tell what is wrong.
Light AA could benefit from a lot of extra detail, but this is not an error, just an inaccuracy.
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Correct. I don't know if the structural dimensions and forms are 100% correct, but there are no glaring errors. You can get a very fine model just by removing all lifeboats except those carried on the middle of the aft superstructure and by an accurate painting.Thomas E. Johnson wrote: So there are no major structural errors then. Its just adding or reducing various details, and using the correct colors?

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- Secondo
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A recent submission in the gallery on which the plane has the roundels upside down made me wonder if the Trumpeter instructions are clear enough on that point. Anyway, keep in mind that the Regia Aeronautica roundel had the axes on the fasces on the rear half and facing outside, each roundel being specular to the other.


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This is the model I make littorio1941 "bones camouflage", another model scene of taranto port. Now only just started, in this scene I'm ready to place littorio class 2 ship Giulio Cesare/Caio Duilio 1 ship dd2-3, other auxiliary ship is some. Hope can be completed as soon as possible! 
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I am also told that Humbrol 149 is near the mark for the hull.
I to have just got this ship in 1/350, that is ordered it and a wood deck from WEM.
Is there a PE etch for the 1/350 Roma out, I know WEM are starting one, but not much interest so far so this will be more later than sooner, unless more order it'hint,hint!!!!!
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Waterline is my prefered option.
Great work here on Info for this ship.
I have nothing yet on this ship for reference except here, so thanks all.
I to have just got this ship in 1/350, that is ordered it and a wood deck from WEM.
Is there a PE etch for the 1/350 Roma out, I know WEM are starting one, but not much interest so far so this will be more later than sooner, unless more order it'hint,hint!!!!!
Waterline is my prefered option.
Great work here on Info for this ship.
I have nothing yet on this ship for reference except here, so thanks all.
Cornwall UK
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Re: Calling all RM Vittorio Veneto-class fans!
Flyhawk Model has a very detailed photoetch set available now for the 1:350 Roma; I used it to finish off my model, which can be seen on modelwarhips.com. I did note that their set, which includes metal barrels for the 15-in., 6-in. and 3.9-in. guns, omits any rudders or propellers for the small boats. The Flyhawk set should be used to replace nearly all of Trumpeter's own limited photoetch parts. You can better finish off the 37 mm AA guns with separate barrels from Master Models. I ordered my Flyhawk photoetch set directly from a distributor in Hong Kong, after finding them on the internet.
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- Secondo
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Great work Lieven: so far you're one of the first modellers to get the colours spot-on, notably the air-recognition red, which was, as you correctly represented, much more dull than most people think 







