Calling all PT Boat (all types) fans!

[Garth]

That's a very good idea, Blake. However, just bear in mind that their research desk is closed until January 2013.

Garth

[kurt]

Al,

Do you happen to have plans of the airfoil?

Kurt

[alross2]

Best I can do (terrible microfilm copy):



Al

[Cadman]

Garth

Garth, log in and we wont have to approve each and every post you make.

[kurt]

Thanks, That's fine, it's legible. Trade it on a light box and copy it to scale. If you have any other thoughts about the conversion please let me know.

Kurt

[Garth]

Thanks Tim,

Sorry, I forgot my password. Would you please email me it?

[alross2]

Have you seen this photo of 504?



Also, Vic Chun's second PT book has some decent photos of the RON 34 boats.

[Garth]

As does Building, Detailing, and Converting the 1:35 Scale Italeri PT-596, and U.S. Patrol Torpedo Boats in World War II, 1939 - 1945, and the 1994 version of PT Boats In Action.

[Saxondog]

Thanks,I intend to call Monday,I have decided to go ahead and donate the recruitment posters I have from the 1930's courthouse here in Memphis. None are PT-Boat but several are rare and mainly focused on the Naval Air service due to the Milling-ton Tennessee Naval Air Station that was built outside of Memphis. Unfortunately most of this the Largest inland Naval Base at one time is closed due to budget cuts. It is now Naval support activity base.

I have not been to the museum in a long time,I appreciate the information and will see if I can arrange a visit next week. I remember a very nice lady,the granddaughter of Buckley perhaps?

At the last visit they had some donated models in pretty bad shape,but I was unable to assist in their restoration. Now I have the time,and perhaps I could volunteer in some way if needed. After all we are the volunteer state for a reason. Something many in Tennessee are proud of.

Germantown was a very small community growing up, only two police cars and really a fine example of a small town. My first job was working at a Gulf gas station their in Germantown.Our house was really on a side road and pretty remote,now their is a Golf course behind our house,the street which was very narrow is now a parkway with the new city hall and police station.Germantown is a very large city now compared to the 1970's.

The Museum is on a side street off Germantown Parkway in an office park. Even that area is now totally commercial. Still the museum has done well to stay in operation during he commercial expansion and the exploding values of property. The lease values in the area are the highest in Metro Area.

[Saxondog]

Very CLEAR photos. Curious about the civilians in BOLAR HATS on deck,must be British and from their dress not naval personnel.

I am not very knowledgeable of the PT-Boat service in the European theatre,so I have much to learn.

The Boat is not armed,at least with Torpedoes,and the crew standing at attention seems to imply the guest are of a Political Nature? r at least of some importance. Note the dress uniforms of the crew as well. Very interesting photo. Due you have a date? Just curious.

[Garth]

I am made to understand that the boat was being visited by King George V and his party.

Garth

[kurt]

Thanks again Al. I ordered AMERICAN PT BOATS IN WORLD WAR II VOLUME 2. I guess I'll be pretty much good to go.

Kurt

[PTConsultingNHR]

Kurt ...

I may have some photos that could help you. Go to www.ptboatworld.com and click on CONTACT US and I'll gladly email you them.

Garth

[kurt]

Garth,

Thanks for the pics and your quick response.Two are interesting in they carried the paint scheme with wavy separation on to the torps. You would think it would stand out against the deck cabins color.

Kurt

[PTConsultingNHR]

Kurt ...

You're welcome.

But, y'all know something?

Until you mentioned that about the torpedoes; I've NEVER noticed that. I wonder what the thinking was behind that?

Garth

[kurt]

For everyone else, this is what I was referring to. I don't understand painting the torpedoes like this.

[Saxondog]

Very Odd,notice the large air recognition white star on the deck,now why would camouflage pant be needed on a Torpedo on such a clearly marked vessel?

Maybe it was from an earlier scheme?

Thanks for clarifying the diplomatic nature of the civilians.

Can anyone tell me the two squadrons that used the Black and White Scheme shown on the box art of the revel PT167 Kit?

I understand one was Pacific,and the other mediterranean?
TKS Blake

[PTConsultingNHR]

The white star was to minimize the threat of friendly fire.

The paint on the torpedoes doesn't seem to be a left over, as I have never seen anything like that before those photos.

The two squadrons using the Adaptor Scheme were RON 10 and RON 15 (one Elco and one Higgins) ... RON 10's (Elco - Pacific) scheme was removed from the boats right away but RON 15's (Higgins - Med) boats apparently used it for a while longer in action.

[alross2]

The Adaptor Schemes used on the operational boats were quite different. Originally, the scheme comprised white, black, and "counter-shade gray" stripes. The latter color was described by David Swasey (a camoufleur at ELCO) as a"...very light blue gray...much in the same value (slightly darker) as the light blue used in the Scott and Thayer System..." Here is an ELCO drawing of one of the original patterns:


On the RON 10 boats, the white was displaced by what Swasey described as a "...light yellow green...". The RON 15 boats appear to have retained the standard Adaptor colors, such as seen on PT 207:


Eventually, the RON 15 boats were overpainted in a variety of schemes.

Al Ross

[Steve Sobieralski]

Another part from the 596 kit that you could use is the engineroom hatch/air scoop.

The side profile is the same, but, as can be seen on the drawing that Al Ross posted, the width of the hatch/scoop is quite a bit narrower on the earlier boats than on the 596.