Calling all Kiev and Minsk (Киев и Минск) fans

[ADebroux]

Hey guys, I'm interested in getting one of Trumpy's 1/700 Kievs and I'm wondering how great of a kit it is. From the builds in the gallery it looks like a good kit but no one comments on its accuracy or ease of build. Google doesn't turn up anything either. What do you guys think of it? What is the difference between the Kiev and Minsk boxings?

One thing about the Trumpeter kit for Kiev/Minsk (same kit-different box art) that bugs me is that some of the weapons (namely the gatling guns, a/s motars and 76mm guns) are ridiculously overscale. Since I've been currently working on the Kiev, i replaced them with more suitably sized versions from another 1/700 Soviet weapons sprue. I'm planning to use the 1/700 Helix set from Trumpeter as well since the ones with the kit don't look too great in my eyes. Overall it is a decent kit, a definite improvement over Aoshima's, but it could have been better than it was. If I'm feeling confident enough in my skills I'll try my hand at building an Admiral Gorshkov/Baku since it doesen't seem like Trumpeter won't put out one anytime soon.

[modellmariner]

Here is photos of BAKU from HobbyBoss in 1/700. Underwater hull and waterline plate missing unfortunately.





http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10231943



Here are good pictures of BAKU.


http://navsource.narod.ru/photos/02/164/index.html





J�rg

[Admiral John Byng]

Hi Guys

I have uploaded a slightly better version of the album at http://www.shekouonline.com/minskworld/index.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... l-1936.htm is also worth having a read for general interest

Many thanks for the photos Steve. I always wondered what the missile handling arrangements were and there is so much detail in your photos in spite of the mist. You did a great job.
Thanks!

[Admiral John Byng]

Got my Trumpeter 1/700 Kiev today. Not many parts!
Anyone know of any replacements for the main guns and other odd/bad parts?

[Timmy C]

Yeah, trade it for the Hobby Boss Baku.
:P

[JasonW]

Got my Trumpeter 1/700 Kiev today. Not many parts!
Anyone know of any replacements for the main guns and other odd/bad parts?

Skywave makes a Soviet/Russian weapons/equipment set that has some turrets, missile launchers, radars, boats, and various other ancillary equipment on it. Orange Hobby makes some replacement AK-630's. Flyhawk, Lion Roar, Gold Medal and a few others make some etch radar/equipments sets. Aoshima makes a Soviet/Russian naval aircraft set that comes with Yak-38's and Ka-25's. The Forger's aren't too bad, the Ka-25's leave a lot to be desired but are really the only game in town as Trumpeter has not done any Ka-25's in the aircraft sets only Ka-27/29/31's. Aoshima is really the only game in town for either of the aircraft for earlier Kiev class flight group.

Even though Trumpeter includes markings for the first three Kiev's (which appear outwardly similar), if you want a Novorossiysk you will need to make some mods. The forward sponson in front of the angle flight deck with the pair of AK-630's is different. It is stepped in plan view in the first two of the class (Kiev and Minsk) but there is no step on the Novorossiysk. The flight deck had some minor differences as well. There were also a few differences in the radar/electronics fit. She never carried the Side Globe EW or the Pop Group antennae on her island. Pop Group was associated with the SA-N-4. She didn't have the SA-N-4 launcher in the deck aft of the island either. It was intended for the Novorossiysk to carry SA-N-9 but she was never fitted with them or the associated Cross Sword radars.

[Admiral John Byng]

JasonW thanks for the info. I will look out for those sets.
Timmy, I intend to get a Baku when they provide the hull!

[modellmariner]

Here a review in German of the Baku-Kit from HobbyBoss:


http://modellmarine.de/index.php?option ... tid=27:hob

[Senkan]

Hey everyone. I just got a boat load of 1/700 ships already built in the mail. Problem is the packaging wasn't done very well and all the ships had parts broken off. One of the ships is the Aoshima Kiev. I was wondering if anyone has a copy of the instructions they could scan or point me in the direction of the instructions online? Also does anyone have any spare Yak's or KA-25/27 or photo etch?

[JasonW]

Hey everyone. I just got a boat load of 1/700 ships already built in the mail. Problem is the packaging wasn't done very well and all the ships had parts broken off. One of the ships is the Aoshima Kiev. I was wondering if anyone has a copy of the instructions they could scan or point me in the direction of the instructions online? Also does anyone have any spare Yak's or KA-25/27 or photo etch?

I can get you a scan of the directions if you still need them. PM me your email address.

[AyalaBotto]

Hi,

Probably the best Kiev Soviet Aircraft Carrier model (Trumpeter 1/700) I have seen so far built by a Russian modeller.


Plenty of photos here (eleven pages!):
http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/vie ... art_0.html

Although is in Cyrillic alphabet the step-by-step images of the building process speak for it self.
I�m assuming at some point Photo Etch parts where used (probably from Gold Medal models � Ref. 700-31).

Anyway, an awesome model!


Thanks.
Regards,
Ayala Botto

[RNfanDan]

Absolutely AMAZING work....It certainly doesn't LOOK like a 1:700 scale effort!

Thanks for posting the photo, Mr. Botto!

[AyalaBotto]

Absolutely AMAZING work....It certainly doesn't LOOK like a 1:700 scale effort!

Thanks for posting the photo, Mr. Botto!

Hi,

Indeed, it�s hard to believe this is a 1/700 scale model!


Thanks
Regards,
Ayala Botto

[AyalaBotto]

Hi,

Beside GMM � Ref. 700-31 PE set, what other PE Sets can be used on Kiev/Minsk Trumpeter models?

Thanks
Regards,
Ayala Botto

[TZoli]

Hello!

Do any of you have info on the "Glide path spotlights of the Privod-SV system"?
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It's on the Kiev, two near and under the aft missile launcher on platforms:
https://navsource.narod.ru/photos/02/161/02161118.jpg


Maybe dimensions or drawings?