Calling all Yamato (大和) and Musashi (武蔵) fans

[Marco_Trigo]

Furthermore, by the time Wickliffe got there, Yamato was listing heavily to port, and it was not possible to fire any of the main or secondary batteries any more as shells could not be safely transported any longer, per Yoshida.

No to mention the simple fact that with a ship listing what may have been over 20� to port (not sure on the numbers), you really couldn't depress the guns that much to fire against anyone making a run at the starboard side.

I think the gentleman may have embellished the story. Why wouldn't he? He's not an historian, he's not making a factual and could account, he is telling a story. Memory is what it is and with time our memories get blurred with those of others and even myths.

Marco

[bucketfoot-al]

Got a question. Would the encased 25 mm guns get their ammo from outside or would the ammo be inside?

The ammo boxes would be brought in from the outside. I am not sure how much room there was on the inside to store ammo boxes, but they would run through them pretty quick in a prolonged action. That's why they had crews of men whose job was to bring new ammo boxes to the guns. I presume you've seen the movie "Yamato", so you have an idea what it looked like. The AA 25 mm turrets were no larger in circumference than the deck shields for the open AA 25mm guns. And those had to have ammo boxes brought in.

[Senkan]

From what I can remember the movie never showed anyone bringing ammo to those guns. If they were smart they would have made a storage area within the structure to hold extra ammo.

So with this in mind the ammo boxes should be stacked around these guns. I laugh when I see the Nichimo 1/200 model has ammo boxes up on the deck above the guns. I doubt they crew is going to go up stairs to get ammo. So those boxes should be removed and ammo boxes added around the guns on the deck.

[bucketfoot-al]

Actually, if you re-view the movie you will see the men scurrying around with the ammo boxes ... in fact when the young gunner's mount is the only one left, several men brave the fire to get him ammo.

Yes, the ammo boxes should be stored around the gun mounts...that is the way I set up my Nichimo ...

[Senkan]

The ammo boxes should't be on the level above where the guns are. And I don't know why they would have ammo near a door and in the way of traffic when they could place it between the guns.

Regarding the movie...the stairs that lead up to those guns never existed. Nothing I've seem shows stairs there. Any ammo would have been brought from around the tower bridge..not the deck. So that is pure fiction.

[bucketfoot-al]

Silliness deleted. If you want to know what was in this space, click on the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... AMVIDC1EB4

[Senkan]

[bucketfoot-al]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 526mSA3TRs

[Timmy C]

Phew, and there I thought I'd have to do something about this.

[bucketfoot-al]

No Timmy, nothing to see here but us live action Warner Bros characters milling about

[Senkan]

Hey man..we both love Yamato. No hard feelings at all. Just sitting here thinking of the how Yamato works. And yes it is 3 am here. I work nights and believe it or not I can work on my Yamato at work. I'm working on the superstructure right now and I'll put the pic up. Im trying to make the scaffolding around the 5 inch open turrets. PITA! Wish someone would make some and I could just buy..oh well.

Regarding the aftermarket ammo boxes Ive having a hell of a time shaving off the metal off the bottom.

[bucketfoot-al]

*Genuflecting* Your Yamato build is something I could not duplicate even if I went to a deserted island with nothing else to do the next 5 years. I wish I had time to do ANY kind of modeling right now. I get real crotchety when I see other folks progress on their kits/ships, etc. I'm working 7 days a week and otherwise helping to manage 3 teenagers all with serious sports commitments and college looming next year for the first of them.

Its no wonder that my sanity periodically takes a vacation. I figure if I can survive the next 10 years, God willing He might give me a couple of decades to get back to my hobby. The unfinished projects pile up and up. And only one of them is a ship (my 1/144 Yamato, waterline version - don't hold your breath - you might not see it online in this decade...)

[Senkan]

This is my first build since I put this same ship together back in '86. That was sunk by the son of my ex fiance. I haven't built any models since then. So I'm taking my time of this. And trust me...you could do what I'm doing if you really wanted to. But I have time. I'm sure you'd rather have completed children than a complete model.

[Senkan]

Im trying to make scaffolding that goes around the 5 inch open guns. Looking at the Super Illustrated Yamato it shows tread plate. But most models have wood. And these parts say its wood. So...wood it is?

[chuck]

Im trying to make scaffolding that goes around the 5 inch open guns. Looking at the Super Illustrated Yamato it shows tread plate. But most models have wood. And these parts say its wood. So...wood it is?

It is tread plate in the upper row of tubs. These weren't normal tubs, but were the bottom half of enclosed blast shields. The upper halves were transplanted to the lower row, but the upper rows retained the lower halves and their interior structures. I also submit the gun hoists had to have been different in the 5 inch guns in blast shields.

[Senkan]

Good Info. Thank you sir. Looks like tread plate it is.

[SailorJack]

It looks to me like you could fit an A6M2 Zero in the hangar bay.
You might have to remove the engine and turn it sideways, and maybe take off the rudder and tail horn under the rudder.
Then fold the wingtips and tilt the wings as you lower it down and ease it in through the doors, but then it should go.
What do you think? Any 'Yeas'? 'Nays?'

[bucketfoot-al]

If you are talking about the hangar bay of Yamato, the answer is yes. (I confess I didn't understand your PM yesterday).

The wings folded up and down the well they went on the crane hook. Then pulled into the bay on rails. Don't know anything about turning the engine sideways. One of the two types of float planes on Yamato was a Zero variant.

[SailorJack]

Skulski says 7 planes.
I mean a land-based Zero with no pontoons.
Only the wingtips fold, rather like sticking your arm out and curling your fingers up, but not bending your elbows.
If you remove the engine, it shortens the plane.
Then turn the plane itself sideways to the hangar well.
It should fit; if not, turn the rudder sideways and shorten it more.
Do that, and the fuselage will still have a projection that sticks backwards from underneath the rudder.
Remove that, and you shorten it more.
Next, the wings, folded at the tips, will be too long for a straight-down descent into the hangar well.
So angle the straight aircraft wings at 30 to 40 degrees or so, and the lower wingtip will go down and into the opening while the upper wingtip remains above the lip at the back end of the well.
Then you just ease the plane in through the doors as you slowly lower and level out the plane and wings; kind of like putting your foot into a shoe.
A foot won't go 'straight down' into a shoe; but if you tilt your foot you can ease it down and into the opening. Same idea.
I'm asking, can you fit a Mitsubishi A6M2 Zero, the kind that has wheeled retractable landing gear and no floats, down the Yamato aircraft hangar well sideways if you do all that.
I've examined high-def photos and done some copying and pasting of chopped airplane photos over photos of the Yamato aircraft hangar well, all to scale, and it looks like it will work.
I'm curious to get the opinion of you people who are fanatics for precision in your scale model-making.
Am I right?

[Timmy C]

And now I'm curious as to why you'd want to do that.