Calling all Russian submarine fans
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- redoctober27
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Wow great pic of the scoops!! hopfuly if hobbyboss does a 1/350 Typhoon they will include the water intake scoops.. If not are there any ship kits out there that have liked scoops that on could salvage from? Also what is this 1/350 Golf Class ship cominig out ? any links? And any word on a release date for the Hobbyboss Akula 1/350?
- Timmy C
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Akula to be released in October: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10239049
De quoi s'agit-il?
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Brad-M
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Too bad it's not an Akula I. Not sure why manufacturers insist on producing the later Akula's.
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- redoctober27
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
stupid question .. Can one use the sail from the Bronco Akula on the Hobbyboss hull and take a tail tow pod from a Hobbyboss Victor III and make it into a Akula I - II ?
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Brad-M
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Nope to both. Sails and hull dimensions won't work.
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
There is hope that HB may have the Akula not too far off the mark: forget the boxart, move on to the actual model and, surprise-surprise, it is not Gepard!
http://www.hobbyboss.com/a/en/product/s ... /1039.html
Still not convinced about the way the part aft of the sail looks, but at least I kow have an itch to buy it!
http://www.hobbyboss.com/a/en/product/s ... /1039.html
Still not convinced about the way the part aft of the sail looks, but at least I kow have an itch to buy it!
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Brad-M
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Hmmm...the dimensions in the painting guide look very off to me. Lets hope it's only a bad drawing.
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Yep, same feeling here: the drawings do look like a fat whale, but if you look at the actual hull pieces they seem more "streamlined".Brad-M wrote:Hmmm...the dimensions in the painting guide look very off to me. Lets hope it's only a bad drawing.
Brad
Hence my verdict of "there is hope"...
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Brad-M
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Agreed
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- Patman
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Hi guys
Russianns don�t cease to surprise me. When browsing through the pictures at "Soviet & Russian Submarines" page at Facebook, I�ve found this one:

According to Google translator (it was in cyrillic.)_" Submarines of Project 690 "Mullet / Kefal" - a series of Soviet submarines, built in the years 1967-1970. The chief designer of the project - EV Krylov. Boats intended to participate in an anti-submarine exercises in the ships of the target, but other than that could also be used as warships. Boats can withstand falling jet depth charges and torpedoes in the idle gear."
Does enybody have more info on this one?
Saludos
Patricio
Russianns don�t cease to surprise me. When browsing through the pictures at "Soviet & Russian Submarines" page at Facebook, I�ve found this one:

According to Google translator (it was in cyrillic.)_" Submarines of Project 690 "Mullet / Kefal" - a series of Soviet submarines, built in the years 1967-1970. The chief designer of the project - EV Krylov. Boats intended to participate in an anti-submarine exercises in the ships of the target, but other than that could also be used as warships. Boats can withstand falling jet depth charges and torpedoes in the idle gear."
Does enybody have more info on this one?
Saludos
Patricio
Done:
Victor III 1/350
In the yard:
USS Gudgeon 1/350
Alfa 1/350
Queue:
Guppy II 1/350
Leonardo Da Vinci 1/350
Type 212 1/350
ARA Santiago del Estero 1/144
USS Nautilus 1/350
ARA San Juan 1/350
ARA Chiriguano 1/350
Severodvinsk 1/350
Victor III 1/350
In the yard:
USS Gudgeon 1/350
Alfa 1/350
Queue:
Guppy II 1/350
Leonardo Da Vinci 1/350
Type 212 1/350
ARA Santiago del Estero 1/144
USS Nautilus 1/350
ARA San Juan 1/350
ARA Chiriguano 1/350
Severodvinsk 1/350
- peppe
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
http://forummarine.forumactif.com/t1011 ... -690-bravo (in french)
http://www.deepstorm.ru/DeepStorm.files ... 0/list.htm (in russian)
http://www.soumarsov.eu/Sous-marins/Post45/690/690.htm (in french)
some more information
ciao pepp
http://www.deepstorm.ru/DeepStorm.files ... 0/list.htm (in russian)
http://www.soumarsov.eu/Sous-marins/Post45/690/690.htm (in french)
some more information
ciao pepp
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Tom Dougherty
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
I just saw that the Hobby Boss Golf submarine is now listed as a 2014 item.
Tom Dougherty
Researcher for: "Project Azorian�
https://www.amazon.com/Azorian-Raising- ... B008QTU7QY
"Project Azorian: The CIA and the Raising of the K-129" Book
https://www.usni.org/press/books/project-azorian
Researcher for: "Project Azorian�
https://www.amazon.com/Azorian-Raising- ... B008QTU7QY
"Project Azorian: The CIA and the Raising of the K-129" Book
https://www.usni.org/press/books/project-azorian
- Patman
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Grazie Peppe!
Done:
Victor III 1/350
In the yard:
USS Gudgeon 1/350
Alfa 1/350
Queue:
Guppy II 1/350
Leonardo Da Vinci 1/350
Type 212 1/350
ARA Santiago del Estero 1/144
USS Nautilus 1/350
ARA San Juan 1/350
ARA Chiriguano 1/350
Severodvinsk 1/350
Victor III 1/350
In the yard:
USS Gudgeon 1/350
Alfa 1/350
Queue:
Guppy II 1/350
Leonardo Da Vinci 1/350
Type 212 1/350
ARA Santiago del Estero 1/144
USS Nautilus 1/350
ARA San Juan 1/350
ARA Chiriguano 1/350
Severodvinsk 1/350
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nfrancis3
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
What colors for the Kursk hull? Black or grey...did she have a waterline?
Thanks!!
Thanks!!
- Tim Jacobs
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Rather than reposting the pics, please see pg 12 of this thread. There are pics of Kursk out of the water after the accident.nfrancis3 wrote:What colors for the Kursk hull? Black or grey...did she have a waterline?
Thanks!!
On the workbench:
I Love Kit 1/72 OSA-I
Recently completed:
Das Werk 1/16 Panzer III Ausf. J (early)
Trumpeter 1/35 SA-8 Gecko
Trumpeter 1/350 Moskva (Slava-class)
I Love Kit 1/72 OSA-I
Recently completed:
Das Werk 1/16 Panzer III Ausf. J (early)
Trumpeter 1/35 SA-8 Gecko
Trumpeter 1/350 Moskva (Slava-class)
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calogero
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the new oscar 2 1/350 hobby boss
first pictures about the kursk of hobby boss and inside the box in their site
http://www.hobbyboss.com/a/en/product/s ... /1051.html
http://www.hobbyboss.com/a/en/product/s ... /1051.html
- redoctober27
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
wow i think it looks good.. but that is my opinion..
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orangelion03
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New guy here, just registered. Great topic, very helpful for my current modeling interests!
Though just now building a few sub models,have a lot of experience with resin automobile and aircraft kits and thought I might pass on some tips to those having troubles making paint stick to resin. First off, not all resins are the same and not all release agents are the same as well. What has worked best for me in most instances is a product called Bleche-White, sold as a tire cleaner in some auto parts stores. Have no idea if it is available outside of the USoA. For priming, I use only automotive grade paint. I used to use DuPont primer but it is no longer available in California, so I have turned to spray can products available at auto parts stores. I use Duplicolor sandable primer (which comes in gray, white, black, red-brown, and red), or VHT Prime-Coat (black, light gray, dark gray, red oxide).
Though just now building a few sub models,have a lot of experience with resin automobile and aircraft kits and thought I might pass on some tips to those having troubles making paint stick to resin. First off, not all resins are the same and not all release agents are the same as well. What has worked best for me in most instances is a product called Bleche-White, sold as a tire cleaner in some auto parts stores. Have no idea if it is available outside of the USoA. For priming, I use only automotive grade paint. I used to use DuPont primer but it is no longer available in California, so I have turned to spray can products available at auto parts stores. I use Duplicolor sandable primer (which comes in gray, white, black, red-brown, and red), or VHT Prime-Coat (black, light gray, dark gray, red oxide).
- redoctober27
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Any one get or further reviewed the new Hobby boss 1/350 Oscar call and Akula classes yet? I cant remember if there out yet but to me the oscar is on the to get list!
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
I have the Akula.
I was planning to post some pics but I am renovating a room in my house and that is making my hands full.
I will attempt a mini review here. (Maybe) more to follow (maybe) soon.
The good:
It is NOT the Gepard! And thank goodness for that! So forget the boxart etc.
Overall shape looks good (see below though!)
Sail layout, masts, and how it fares into the hull OK!
Nice raised lip of the sonobuoy housing aft of the sail
Nice towed array pod
Trim tabs on all horizontal and vertical tail surfaces
The bad:
SOKS (they got the forward of the sail part ok, but no SOKS on top of the sail - strange because on the Victor they did a pretty good job, competely bogus is the part under the water)
Shape of at least two torpedo tube hatches...very elongated and does not match any picture...
Cruciform vortex attenuator on the screw very exaggerated (they stubbornly make it all in plastic when they could much more simply and effectively use plastic for the hub and PE for the cross...)
Limber holes with the shape of the early boats.
The ugly:
As it was already guessed by the first images available directly from HB, the shape of the stern is VERY odd. I will try to explain: instead of evolving from a cone into more of a funnel approximately at the point of the rudders, the cone continues to the end, making it very "fat" at the end whereas on the real boat it is a very slender cylinder. It also looks short.
Verdict:
Better than Bronco's Gepard.
Far from perfect.
Will look like an Akula once built.
Very good if a waterline model is made (this way you can do away with the stern issue entirely)
My score: 75%
HTH
I was planning to post some pics but I am renovating a room in my house and that is making my hands full.
I will attempt a mini review here. (Maybe) more to follow (maybe) soon.
The good:
It is NOT the Gepard! And thank goodness for that! So forget the boxart etc.
Overall shape looks good (see below though!)
Sail layout, masts, and how it fares into the hull OK!
Nice raised lip of the sonobuoy housing aft of the sail
Nice towed array pod
Trim tabs on all horizontal and vertical tail surfaces
The bad:
SOKS (they got the forward of the sail part ok, but no SOKS on top of the sail - strange because on the Victor they did a pretty good job, competely bogus is the part under the water)
Shape of at least two torpedo tube hatches...very elongated and does not match any picture...
Cruciform vortex attenuator on the screw very exaggerated (they stubbornly make it all in plastic when they could much more simply and effectively use plastic for the hub and PE for the cross...)
Limber holes with the shape of the early boats.
The ugly:
As it was already guessed by the first images available directly from HB, the shape of the stern is VERY odd. I will try to explain: instead of evolving from a cone into more of a funnel approximately at the point of the rudders, the cone continues to the end, making it very "fat" at the end whereas on the real boat it is a very slender cylinder. It also looks short.
Verdict:
Better than Bronco's Gepard.
Far from perfect.
Will look like an Akula once built.
Very good if a waterline model is made (this way you can do away with the stern issue entirely)
My score: 75%
HTH
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