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Peter Rathgeb
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Calling all Soviet WWII submarine fans

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Hi all.

I have seen that Combrig has made quite a few Soviet WWII subs, also to be found in the gallery. Is there a website with history (in english?) and pics which can be recommended?

A specific question: Were there any Soviet submarines operating in the Caspian Sea during WWII? Which types? Any photos around?

Thanks a lot and cheers!

Peter
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Hey

As long as I know, no submarines. The M-type (series XII and XV) boats could be easily brought there if necessary (rail transportable), but no axis powers had any naval threat there, so none came. Main task was escorting the oil transports (both on ships and by rolling the rail tanks into the water and towing these), so most ships were fitted as AA escorts - both special built gunboats and some old WW1 era destroyers, as well as many armed thrawlers, tugs, barges..
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PetrOs wrote:Hey

As long as I know, no submarines. The M-type (series XII and XV) boats could be easily brought there if necessary (rail transportable), but no axis powers had any naval threat there, so none came. Main task was escorting the oil transports (both on ships and by rolling the rail tanks into the water and towing these), so most ships were fitted as AA escorts - both special built gunboats and some old WW1 era destroyers, as well as many armed thrawlers, tugs, barges..

Thank you, PetrOs!

I am in fact building right now the gunboat Lenin in 1942 fit. This does not belong to this topic, but I had (have) some questions concerning the camouflage:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=76491

Can you tell me what type of destroyers was in the Caspian flotilla?

Thanks again, and cheers,
Peter
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Peter Rathgeb wrote:Hi all.

I have seen that Combrig has made quite a few Soviet WWII subs, also to be found in the gallery. Is there a website with history (in english?) and pics which can be recommended?

A specific question: Were there any Soviet submarines operating in the Caspian Sea during WWII? Which types? Any photos around?

Thanks a lot and cheers!

Peter
Caspian was used as a testing area for experimental submarines like the M-401 with AIP engines and several Series XV "M" class subs that were evacuated from Leningrad and completed on Astrakhan. Given the general level of secrecy in the Soviet Union at the time I'm not aware of any photos that can be directly attributed to the Caspian Sea. None of the subs were permanently assigned to the Caspian Flotilla.

Vladimir

P.S. As far as I know there are no good sites on the Soviet WWII subs in English. For histories of most of the Soviet subs from the beginning until modern days look here (in Russian):
http://deepstorm.ru/
But even there photos are pretty rare. A number of rather small photos can be found here:
http://submarine.id.ru/thumbs/index.html

The best quality photos of the submarines and other Russian/Soviet ships can be found on shipspotting.com posted by this user (if you scroll through them you'll find a number of submarines there):
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/pho ... tter=24145

And of course can't not recommend my book :) which has a number of submarine photos in it :)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/186227 ... 1862274509
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vladimir yakubov wrote: Caspian was used as a testing area for experimental submarines like the M-401 with AIP engines and several Series XV "M" class subs that were evacuated from Leningrad and completed on Astrakhan. Given the general level of secrecy in the Soviet Union at the time I'm not aware of any photos that can be directly attributed to the Caspian Sea. None of the subs were permanently assigned to the Caspian Flotilla.

Vladimir

P.S. As far as I know there are no good sites on the Soviet WWII subs in English. For histories of most of the Soviet subs from the beginning until modern days look here (in Russian):
http://deepstorm.ru/
But even there photos are pretty rare. A number of rather small photos can be found here:
http://submarine.id.ru/thumbs/index.html

The best quality photos of the submarines and other Russian/Soviet ships can be found on shipspotting.com posted by this user (if you scroll through them you'll find a number of submarines there):
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/pho ... tter=24145

And of course can't not recommend my book :) which has a number of submarine photos in it :)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/186227 ... 1862274509
Vladimir, thank you so much for the informations and the links! I did not know about your book (my interest in the Soviet Navy is rather new) - I sure will buy it.

Cheers,
Peter
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Hi,

I'm looking for some plans or pictures from deck area from the Soviet WWII Submarines: K-21, S-56 and SHCH-303 to improve AMP/Mikro-Mir 1/350 kits.

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Ricardo
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Hi all,

I have bought the 1/350 scale Soviet WWII subs on the market (AMP/Mikro Mir).

What I am missing is some infos on the hull and deck colours. On the net (and on model kits) I found only contradictory and very vague information.

Can anybody shed some light on this matter? For example, how was the K-21 painted?

Thanks for any help, and cheers,

Peter
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