Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Akula wrote:Mine arrived today. Simply beautiful!!! 13.5 LPI is great


Bob
Thanks, great to hear!

But I just sold out of the 13.5 LPI... more in a couple weeks...
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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OK, I'm back from vacation, and my chain gnomes surprised my by gnawing out some more of the 1:200 scale BB anchor chain. It's now re-listed at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 1173646591


Thanks!


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This batch is almost gone... more in two weeks! (I gotta order bigger quantities from the chain gnomes...).


More chain lore: Titanic and her sisters used chain quite a bit larger than the Iowa class's... 5-1/2" vs. Iowa's 3-1/2", per this article:
http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/ti ... chors.html

This translates to 15.9 LPI for a 1:350 Titanic... my 13.5 LPI chain is close, though a bit oversized, for this application.

You can also find humongous chain used on anything with lots of wind exposure-- like large car carriers, container ships, and oil platforms.
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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ordered on ebay :smallsmile:
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Thanks!

Say, does anyone have a clear shot of the kit's anchors?
I'm trying to work up some connections for my 3D printed chain to the anchor shackle, and a way to include the swivel in the chain... it would help if I could see what the kit provides in that area. TIA!

Also in the works... 1:200 chain stoppers... more later!
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Anchor has its own shackle, then a short shackle attached to a "long link" (which allows the shackle to be inserted through).
Anchor has its own shackle, then a short shackle attached to a "long link" (which allows the shackle to be inserted through).
From the shackles, a short stretch of chain to the swivel. After the swivel is the first full shot (15 fathoms) of anchor chain.<br />And then you have three chain stoppers (with pelican hooks) on either side.
From the shackles, a short stretch of chain to the swivel. After the swivel is the first full shot (15 fathoms) of anchor chain.
And then you have three chain stoppers (with pelican hooks) on either side.
The Iowa's anchor shackle just shows at the top of the hawse pipe.
The Iowa's anchor shackle just shows at the top of the hawse pipe.
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Just saw this thread...and wow dude, those 3D chains look awesome. I am going to have to grab one. eBay item saved into my watch list :thumbs_up_1:

Btw, I'll try and see if I can take a pic of the anchor for you as I'm working on the Mighty Mo right know. Thanks.

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Got mine today, very fast delivery to UK, never thought I would be excited about anchor cable, it is very good.
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I received it too: amazing :thumbs_up_1:
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Thanks all, for the comments. Can't wait to see your installations!

For anyone waiting on me-- I just got in a new batch, but it requires some secondary ops at home, and I'm running out of town for the weekend (anyone else going to Manitowoc??)... So it should be ready early next week. Sorry for the delay.
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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OK, I should have another small batch of 13.5 LPI x 15� bulk chain on my ebay listing tonight. Made a last-minute decision to travel to the Manitowoc show last weekend, which put quite a hitch in my �production process�!

Now, here�s a preview of a new design: Custom chain sets for the 1:200 Iowa Class. The images show CAD renderings for clarity, and actual initial samples.

The sets include:

2 runs of chain for the �anchor stowed� condition:
> 13.5 LPI chain links.
> Correct elongated link and bending shackle at outboard end. The bending shackle can be pinned to the anchor shackle with a bit of .020� (0.5mm) wire.
> Swivel link in the correct position (just aft of the middle chain stopper)

1 sprue with 6 + 2 extra chain stopper assemblies.
> Each stopper has a padeye, turnbuckle, pelican hook, and chain links. The upper jaw of the pelican hook is to be assembled onto the lower jaw, trapping the chain.


Using these stoppers will look better than the incorrect practice of simply using short runs of chain. Placing the pelicans under the chain (three places per side) will lift the chain off the deck locally, an effect which you can plainly see in any photos.


Questions:
> I have yet to see what Trumpeter provides for the anchor. I hope they include the anchor�s shackle?
> Not sure what Trumpeter provides for the padeyes on deck. Separate or molded on? Molded will require removal, and drilling of a 0.040� (1mm) hole for the provided chain stopper.
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Elongated &quot;bending link&quot; and bending shackle, attach to anchor shackle.
Elongated "bending link" and bending shackle, attach to anchor shackle.
Swivel at inboard end of &quot;outboard swivel shot&quot;. From here, the first full 90 foot shot starts.
Swivel at inboard end of "outboard swivel shot". From here, the first full 90 foot shot starts.
Chain stopper assembly
Chain stopper assembly
Actual sample
Actual sample
Actual sample
Actual sample
Actual sample
Actual sample
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Wow!! Looks like the IJN stuff as depicted in the GPS books.
Oh Goody..... more 1:200 scale stuff for my Nagato


Sign me up!!!

Bob

I blasted mine with the air eraser and they cleaned up even more. Good ol Baking Soda and a custom made support and they are stupendous Pat!!
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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That looks great! I'll be getting some for my Missouri kit for sure!
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Pat,

Your stoppers, etc. look like the real deal.

I've bought the chain from Floating Drydock (a month or so ago). Do you offer the stopper parts, etc. as a separate purchase? Also, are they available thru OTHER THAN Ebay? I had problems with them years ago and simply won't go that route again - esp. now with their accounts being hacked, etc. I would love to purchase the additional add-ons, if available.

When I get back to my shop Monday evening I'll take a pic or two of the MISSOURI kit anchors and post them early Tues. morning for you.

Thanks,

Hank
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USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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A small amount of the 13.5 LPI chain is back in stock: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 1173646591

Hank: I use ebay because I can't justify putting together a full e-commerce site for this one item I make, and ebay makes it easy to track orders. But feel free to contact me offline, I'll take care of you one way or another!

Thanks for the comments on the chain stoppers. They are TINY, only 1/2 inch long each, and very fragile. Not quite ready for prime time yet, but I'll announce here when they are.

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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Pat,

Will do - I'm not yet doing hull work, but will contact you when the time comes. I will get the anchor pix for you as mentioned. I fully understand your reasoning.

Thanks,

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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Hey Pat

Is the stopper assembly links movable? I will need to add 4 links toward the U shaped piece.


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Moveable and removeable are 2 different things. I'm working on improving the articulation. Adding links would require a modified design. ..
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Happy/Sad! Sold out again. I need to order MUCH more of this stuff each time...

Thanks all!
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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OK, I've added a few 1:200 "swivel shots" to the ebay listing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 1173646591

Includes 2x 7" lengths of 13.5 LPI chain, having the elongated link and shackle at the anchor end, and a simulated swivel link in the right place for Iowas.

Still working on those pelican hooks...
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Pat,

Ok, here are a few pix of the Trumpeter 1:200 MISSOURI anchor parts:
Anchor_2 (Large).JPG
Anchor_1 (Large).JPG
Anchor Parts_1 (Large).JPG
Anchor Parts_2 (Large).JPG
Hope this helps,

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USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, Various Lg Scale FC Directors
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USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48
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