Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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BB62vet wrote:Pat,
Ok, here are a few pix of the Trumpeter 1:200 MISSOURI anchor parts:
Anchor_2 (Large).JPG
Hope this helps, Hank

Perfect, thanks! It's good to see that the anchor's shackle is included as a loose part. It probably needs to be reduced a bit to fit the bending shackle on the end of my swivel shot (above).
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Haya Pat

When will the next exclusively huge order be filled from Shapeways??

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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Pat,

Just read your article in NRJ regarding 3D Printing - Cudos! Very timely and right on target. I learned quite a bit from that good piece of journalism.

Thanks,

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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Sorry for the late response, just noticed that I seem to have turned this thread into an ad, and that it has been moved!

13.5 LPI "swivel shots" for 1:200 Iowa class are back in, and listed again on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 1173646591


Thanks for the comment on the article too.

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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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13.5 LPI chain (bulk and Iowa class "swivel shots") is back in stock.

As usual, at: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Model-Ship-Stud ... 1173646591?

... while it lasts... and while my patience with this fiddly little stuff lasts!
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Ordered! Thanks Pat for making these beautiful chains.
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Pat
With your sales booming for chain the equation should look like this:

Sales Up = Lotsa Beer!!

And as for patience.... get more beer!!!


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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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1:200 "swivel shots" are back in stock, at the ol' ebay listing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 1173646591

Bulk 13.5 LPI chain and others sizes very soon.

Note: Printed part quality from my supplier varies, and there seems to be little I can do about it. And I'm afraid I can't clean it all up myself, so I'm leaving more of this task to you, though I wish it weren't so!
You may find that some chain links have a bit of "flash" on them that prevents free movement. A touch with a sanding board/nail file will clean these up easily.
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Pat

Is that stopper assembly thing available yet??

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Pat, any updates on the pelican hooks?
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Pelican hooks are part of the chain stopper assembly. And I have the little buggers, but haven't convinced myself yet that they're practical for cleaning and for assembly by modelers... but what do I know?

I'm still noodling on it...

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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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It can't be worse than some of the resin parts out there, so I wouldn't worry about clean up on the part of the builder ;)
De quoi s'agit-il?
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I agree. I've got years of practice cleaning up resin parts.
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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OK, I'm thinking out loud here - I'll toss this "thought grenade" into the mix - not completely off-topic, but...

With a lot of mini-tools and such on the market today, I'm wondering if there wouldn't be a way to make a mini-sandblaster for extra-small items such as this? Something along the lines of a hand-held, pencil-like tool with a very fine opening that would shoot the extra-fine "sand" onto your material to smooth it. A table-mtd. fan/blower/media tank with flex. tubing to the tool - the "sand" could be some form of currently available extra-finely ground abrasive. Used in conjuction with a box to contain the powder, this might solve the clean-up issue with these parts. The blower/pump would have to be calculated with the size of the opening to produce a good, powerful "blast" in order to do the job. Oh, and the tool can't cost more than $49.99 :big_eyes:

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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Well, wouldn't you know???

There ARE actually several "mini" sand blasters on the market - one, Badger Air-Brush Co. 260-3 Abrasive Gun with Propel is $50.75 @ Amazon and looks like it might work for an application such as this. It uses aluminum oxide as the "sand" and includes mask. Amazon also sells the Badger Mini-Sandblasting Kit for $47.59 ( thru Blick Art Material) - which appears to be the same unit.

There are a few others, less/more expensive so, I guess this idea isn't THAT far-fetched :doh_1:
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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, Various Lg Scale FC Directors
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Sure- look up the Paasche "Air Eraser", a grit blaster that looks like an airbrush. You might find a used one in that price range. I have seen reports that it works well with baking soda as a mild and very fine abrasive... though my brief trial with it resulted in lots of clogging and so-so results.

I am now working with other methods, such as vibratory and tumble cleaners with various media. And keep in mind that there are three types of clean up required:
1. Remove the goopy process waxes... about the consistency of bacon grease;
2. Knock down the surface roughness, or "stair-stepping", inherent to these additive process;
3. Remove material that looks like molding flash, but which is actually excess material resulting from print heads sorely in need of maintenance.

And for reasons not clear to me: If you use solvents to clean off the wax, a hard chalky residue develops on the surface, which is resistant to the most aggressive cleaning methods (but which is safe base for painting).
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Pat,

Looks like you're covering all the bases on this - from what you've described, the residue seems to be a chem. reaction of the solvents with the plastic.
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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, Various Lg Scale FC Directors
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48
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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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Pat

Noodling is a good thing!!!

When you pull up the catfish by the hand you whump 'em upside the head with a club!!!
Fried catfish on the menu WoHoo!!!!!



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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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BB62vet

Avoid Aluminum oxide at all costs. The paper mask in included is useless. Inhalation of Aluminum oxide can cause Silicosis ( cement in your lungs )
Use a cartridge type paint mask.

Harbor Freight has a Paasche air eraser clone for around $25. But it has Aluminum Oxided included. It is 220 grit and will etch glass and destroy 3D printed parts. I know.. I tried it and the Oxide ate up the part.

The harbor freight clone has a .020" orifice and the paasch 1 quart kit is .035". It is designed for more aggressive grit. I spoke to passch about this.

The clogging Pat mentioned is remedied by sifting the baking powder through a metal mesh coffee filter. It gets the chunks out. Besides... baking powder is really cheap at the grocery store.

I have experimented with this baking powder on Pat's 13.5 LPI chain and it worked beautifully. I did make a screen holder so I could lay down the chain and blast away. I cut a small mailing tube in half, lengthwise, and hot glued a piece of plastic door screen so that it sags a little and it provides great results. The parts get cleaned and the screen supports it.

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Re: Anchor Chain for 1:200 MISSOURI kit

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The smallest one they sell would convert to 25 inches long in 1:200, making them about 140% the size of those on Iowa class.
Dollar bill is 6 inches, in that form let's call it 5, the chainlink looked to be about 18 inches long
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Channell wrote:I just got some 3d printed plastic chain from Floating Drydock last week.

http://www.floatingdrydock.com/more.htm#CHAIN

PCM-C115 is very close to the correct size and looks great. You'll need 2 for the 'Mo as they aren't quite long enough for both chains. I have 2 more on backorder too, so apparently they are currently out of them. I can take some pics of them on the kit deck for you later tonight if you'd like...
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