Calling all Iowa-class (BB-61) fans
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RandyM
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class fans
William: thank you! Re: the bottles - that arrangement is modular and is actually sitting on a shelf now: I just had no idea where to position it. Will correct.
Re: the ladder in the middle of the 01 deck: I knew I was going to catch hell for that one! I have not modeled the hatch yet, and wanted to show the ladder (you can't see it yet, but the internal deck and bulkheads for the main deck below are all modeled in this area) and didn't want to create one without handrails just yet. As I recall from my 3 years onboard a WHEC, we did have similar arrangements - the ladders usually did not have handrails coming up above the deck, but could be configured that way for special occasions (open houses, inspections, etc.). Of course in this case the full hatch would be open - not just the scuttle. I seem to remember the hatch would be propped up on two supports at (at least) a 45-degree angle to the deck.
Re: the ladder in the middle of the 01 deck: I knew I was going to catch hell for that one! I have not modeled the hatch yet, and wanted to show the ladder (you can't see it yet, but the internal deck and bulkheads for the main deck below are all modeled in this area) and didn't want to create one without handrails just yet. As I recall from my 3 years onboard a WHEC, we did have similar arrangements - the ladders usually did not have handrails coming up above the deck, but could be configured that way for special occasions (open houses, inspections, etc.). Of course in this case the full hatch would be open - not just the scuttle. I seem to remember the hatch would be propped up on two supports at (at least) a 45-degree angle to the deck.
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Fliger747
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class fans
Somewhat hilarious, just checked my model and the hatch casting I used for the surrender deck has the scuttle, which is wrong....
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Fliger747
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Not a great photo, but you can see part of a bottle rack.
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- James M
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class fans
Randy, you've created a new game for us to play.
Find the details aboard the Missouri.
The thing I found is the tube attached to the face of the 20mm shield needs to be larger diameter.
It is a 20mm spare barrel/cooling tube so it would need to be large enough to hold a 20mm barrel.
James
Find the details aboard the Missouri.
The thing I found is the tube attached to the face of the 20mm shield needs to be larger diameter.
It is a 20mm spare barrel/cooling tube so it would need to be large enough to hold a 20mm barrel.
James
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Fliger747
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The stanchions supporting the saluting gun platform (where the 20's are) should have their bases almost next to the deck edge waterway, which is about 8" wide. They are in line with the lifelines and used as supports for the same.
Cheers. Tom
Cheers. Tom
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RandyM
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James, Tom: bring it on. I'm all for it.
Moved the 20mm gallery stanchions outboard as far as they would go. Note the location of these parts is not specified in the plans I have. Note also the maindeck waterway is not yet installed.
Raised the shelf for the acetylene tanks and added legs per the photo in Tom's post.
Re: spare barrel tube. Note the second image which is taken from the Missouri Plan Book from FDD. These dimensions are represented in the current tube. I also have a drawing of a 20mm cannon in 1/24 scale. Careful measruements show a max diameter of the barrel part of 3.1". Of course, this does not take into account measurement/reproduction errors. So in the spirit of compromise (and given there have been other rather significant dimensional errors in this data) I increased the tube diameter to four-inches. But the jury is out until someone confirms


Moved the 20mm gallery stanchions outboard as far as they would go. Note the location of these parts is not specified in the plans I have. Note also the maindeck waterway is not yet installed.
Raised the shelf for the acetylene tanks and added legs per the photo in Tom's post.
Re: spare barrel tube. Note the second image which is taken from the Missouri Plan Book from FDD. These dimensions are represented in the current tube. I also have a drawing of a 20mm cannon in 1/24 scale. Careful measruements show a max diameter of the barrel part of 3.1". Of course, this does not take into account measurement/reproduction errors. So in the spirit of compromise (and given there have been other rather significant dimensional errors in this data) I increased the tube diameter to four-inches. But the jury is out until someone confirms


- William Smallshaw
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class fans
All,
Better view of the bottle racks. I believe this is the same area as Tom's photo, 02 level forward of the missile deck. We were patching the expansion joint to cut down the internal leaks on Iowa.
Bill
Better view of the bottle racks. I believe this is the same area as Tom's photo, 02 level forward of the missile deck. We were patching the expansion joint to cut down the internal leaks on Iowa.
Bill
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Fliger747
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Yep that's it though mine was on the port side. Better photo. I remember having one there but couldn't find it. Now all we need to do is find out what bottles were placed there? My model being a late service Missouri has bottles there, though only the racks apply to Randy's project. The expansion joints are an interesting feature and might have been interesting to watch in a seaway!
Cheers. Tom
Cheers. Tom
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class fans
Here is a photo of the spare barrel tubes on the Iowa.
http://ww2db.com/images/ship_iowa71.jpg
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http://ww2db.com/images/ship_iowa71.jpg
James
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RandyM
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(Insert a "www" into your link)
Another excellent photo, and those look closer to 5" than 3.
Another excellent photo, and those look closer to 5" than 3.
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class fans
Keep getting a 403 error on that photo link.
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- William Smallshaw
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class fans
Randy,
Aboard Iowa today took some photos of the bulkhead outside the Captain's stateroom, 01 level. Interesting that Iowa has storage for Unrep fixture. Not to say that this was originally bottle storage during WWII.
Bill
Aboard Iowa today took some photos of the bulkhead outside the Captain's stateroom, 01 level. Interesting that Iowa has storage for Unrep fixture. Not to say that this was originally bottle storage during WWII.
Bill
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Color footage of BB-64 steaming and refueling DD-686 in heavy seas along with an unidentified short hull CV-9 in Ms. 21 steaming in the distance. Awesome footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcJcew0HI04#t=14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcJcew0HI04#t=14
Drawing Board:
1/700 Whiff USS Leyte and escorts 1984
1/700 Whiff USN Modernized CAs 1984
1/700 Whiff ASW Showdown - FFs vs SSGN 1984
Slipway:
1/700 Whiff USN ASW Hunter Killer Group Dio 1984
1/700 Whiff USS Leyte and escorts 1984
1/700 Whiff USN Modernized CAs 1984
1/700 Whiff ASW Showdown - FFs vs SSGN 1984
Slipway:
1/700 Whiff USN ASW Hunter Killer Group Dio 1984
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RandyM
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About 80% done... some of these details are too small to print in 1/200, but should be very nice in 1/96.
(stop me before I do the 40mm...)
Below that is a summary view of the area in which I've been working the past few weeks. I've incorporated nearly all the fixes suggested by the folks here.


(stop me before I do the 40mm...)
Below that is a summary view of the area in which I've been working the past few weeks. I've incorporated nearly all the fixes suggested by the folks here.

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RandyM
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New area of activity.... does anyone have dimensions for the various hatches on the 5-inch mk 28 mount? I'm specifically looking for the side access hatch (front-lower corner of each side) but will take anything you have. Note that I do have Ordnance Pamphlet 805 and while it contains gross dimensions, it doesn't even show this hatch on the drawings.
Thanks as always,
Randy
Thanks as always,
Randy
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I'll measure all of the hatches on the mounts tomorrow man. Do you need a measurement of the Gun Captain's hatch on the roof too?
Drawing Board:
1/700 Whiff USS Leyte and escorts 1984
1/700 Whiff USN Modernized CAs 1984
1/700 Whiff ASW Showdown - FFs vs SSGN 1984
Slipway:
1/700 Whiff USN ASW Hunter Killer Group Dio 1984
1/700 Whiff USS Leyte and escorts 1984
1/700 Whiff USN Modernized CAs 1984
1/700 Whiff ASW Showdown - FFs vs SSGN 1984
Slipway:
1/700 Whiff USN ASW Hunter Killer Group Dio 1984
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RandyM
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In a word, YES.
That would be awesome. Just please don't risk life or limb!
That would be awesome. Just please don't risk life or limb!
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Fliger747
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Small notes: the hoods for the pointer and trainers for the main turrets are more rounded. The main deck lifeline stanchions as well as the ones on the 01 level fwd are in the form of a tapered I beam and many are hinged at the bottom such that they can lay flat in the waterway. Extensions for awning supports fit into a sort of cloverleaf fitting on top.
Cheers. T
Cheers. T
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Randy I got the measurements and some photos that I will add the measurements on as I took a bunch. Sadly I have to go to a funeral though so I won't be able to get to them until Sunday evening.
Drawing Board:
1/700 Whiff USS Leyte and escorts 1984
1/700 Whiff USN Modernized CAs 1984
1/700 Whiff ASW Showdown - FFs vs SSGN 1984
Slipway:
1/700 Whiff USN ASW Hunter Killer Group Dio 1984
1/700 Whiff USS Leyte and escorts 1984
1/700 Whiff USN Modernized CAs 1984
1/700 Whiff ASW Showdown - FFs vs SSGN 1984
Slipway:
1/700 Whiff USN ASW Hunter Killer Group Dio 1984