To HMS Victory and beyond

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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

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The chief wants to have a pizza ...

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... matchwood was made ...

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... and one door remains shut, we do not need family size ;-)

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But what will the gunner say about the ill use of his portable forge ?!?

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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

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He'll probably want a slice. ;)

Nice work on this huge kit!
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

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Amazing stuff Dafi!

If you like, you can still add the handle for the air blowing-thing under the forge, and paint the top part of the little chimney brass. And of course some buckets of water and sand as fire-precaution! And maybe an anvil and some tools too, as I guess the blacksmith didn't only heat the iron� :) This project will never end� :)
But what a journey!

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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

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Thank you,

as wanted on another place here is a Tic-Tac-shot.

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One can see the bellows underneath, just the handle broke off, still find the attachment on the left side.

All the other details will come with the smaller version - promised!

:-)

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Almost as important as the small mobil but too big forge is the surrounding bits (after Goodwin):

Beside the gunsmith, his helpers, anvil and hammer was needed:
- 3 man on the elm tree pump to pump and to keep clear the house to the forge
- wetten deck nicely and spread sand
- 3 buckets full of sand
- 3 buckets of water for emergencies and to harden the goods
- keep the fire small
- the 3 fireman have to man the pump until everything is off for sure and all the ashes are lowered overboard in an iron bucket to the lee side
- check everywhere if any hazards could be still found

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Even though too big for my own build, I could not resist to finish this small kit ...

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... and the best: It came with two sets of decals :-)
One in original english production and one as frensh bounty. As the second was rather uncommon I decided to opt for the english version.

It was tough for me but with loads of softener I finally succeded :-)

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A Modelmakers Prayer

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- Grandfather, tell me a story !
- Alright, go and get your storybook
- No, no, not one of those, a real story !
- A real story ?
- Yes, tell me about when you were a boy.
- Well, then I shall have to take you back
with me, a long way in time...

... end of 2009 first tests
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November 2011 until February 2012 start of mass production
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November 2011 first mood pictures
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August 2012 trials and tests for functions
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November 2012 more tests, this time anchor cables ...
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11.February 2013 first guns glued in ...
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22.02.2013 ... to already retrofit with gun monograms only 11 days later
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August 2013 retrofitting the eyebolts on the carriages and the side tackles
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October 2013 upgrading the breeching lines for the run out guns
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02. November 2013 finishing the run out and secured guns
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25. November 2013 finishing the run out guns and placing the first gun crew
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02. October 2013 retrofitting the eyebolts on the inner hull for the still lingering around tackles
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02. November 2014 I solemnly declare: All guns on the lower gun deck fully rigged ***
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... and as always the mandatory Tic-Tac :-)
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....hihihihihihi...

XXXDAn

PS:
*** seen by the quality standards of today, 03.11.2014 ...

...

PPS: But who knows ...
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

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Amazing, This is such a fantastic build!

I am really enjoying following this build. I have a stashed Santisima Trinidad to build as my first wooden ship once aI get the Yamato and somemore plastic projects out of the way
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...It was my thirteenth year on a cold winter's
day, as I walked through the enchanted forest,
I heard the sound of horses and men at arms,
I felt compelled to walk on and find the place
of these sounds, and when the forest did clear
I was standing on a hil......
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...

- Well, That's it, did you like the story?
- Yeah, it was great!
- Oh, good, I'm glad, now off to bed with you!
- Grandfather?
- Yes?
- Who were those men?
- Who were they? They were the Model Maker Kings!

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As we are on a martial and brute man o war, it is time to make home cosy and cute ...

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... means building the cupboards, plates for the square meals and tinplates ...

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... hangin� them high and arrange the stuff inside ...

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... and taking them down again where it sounds like "Exercising the great Guns" ....

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... just a fade shade of grey remains.

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I am thinking about putting some Hello-Kitty-stickers to personalize the shelf ...?

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Incredible detail. Hello Kitty would add some color although I don't think it would be period correct. :big_grin:
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At the moment I am busy to breed some true to scale weevils for the biscuits served.

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Could be successful :-)

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And on we go with some trifles :-)

I was wondering how to create furniture without it looking like dollhouse toys. Ok, off I went to find out.

Luckily I was successful, only have to stick to the true dimensions :-)

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Here the substructure, fast done and quite stable.

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Contemporary drawings always show the tables direction fore aft, so I displayed them over the massive partner of the sternpost. Like this canvas cabins could be erected on the ship�s sides.
The openings on the deck are no litter bins but aft there are the two scuttles of the ventilation trunks of the hold and in the front the scuttle for the bread room and in the middle the one for the Lady�s hole, means the stuff of the gunner. The gratings are flipped open for better ventilation.

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Here we already have the name of the area, the gun room. The gunner had his quarters here and was then highest warrent officer in this area.He had a canvas cabin on starboard and larboard was the one from the chaplin. The area also was the mess for the warrent officers, junior lieutenants, marine officers and first class volunteers. Here also the chaplin taught the junior midshipmen. The Area was separeted from the rest of the deck by means of canvas covers.

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Still have to redo the canvas blinds, but they work well as layout separations.

I hope, I got the details right,

cheers Daniel

PS: Could not resist to show the Tic Tac in place :-)
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Hello Dan

a work always as impressive :woo_hoo: this is awesome,details are really in their places,this is sublime :thumbs_up_1:
special mention for the smithy I am blacksmith of formation :wink:
continuing to make us dream
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And here comes another round of cardboard dummies with refined partitioning before I move on to produce the final ones.

As the Vic was an admirals ship in 1805 there were a lot of extra personal on board. This made me opt for a forth cabin as shown on Royal Sovereign in 1807.
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Dan

what else to say that banalities,your work is so incredible,that the best adjectives do not exist :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
it is always a pleasure to see your progress
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Thank you Nicolas!

There were three options for the cabins: wood, canvas on a wooden frame and pure canvas like a shower curtain.

All three versions of course were taken down in case of clearing the decks, but this is well known from the captains and admiral room bulkheads, as seen too in MaC ;-)

For the canvas I used washi paper for model planes, primed with clear varnish and put several thin layers of white and light rust paint (white paint with rusty stirring screws). Applied both sides of course.

For the gunners cabin I opted for the semifixed cabin with canvas on a wooden frame, as he surely had some material and documents to be kept off the reach of curious hands. The other cabins probably will be the shower curtains, just lets see how this works in the model.

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Funnily the transparency turned out just like I wanted it too :-)

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Took the cardboard template out and fitted the wooden frame accordingly onto the canvas ...

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... opened the door ...

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... fixed the bit in place and the gunner might move in. For sure he still will bring some chests, his kit and some bedding stuff to satisfy his nesting instinct and to feel home and cosy :-)

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Also the first lieutenant has already his place fixed ...

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... while those two little shipyard workers still discuss on how to proceed further ...

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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

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You know that if someone would want to have you declared insane, they could easily use this model as evidence? :)
Amazing stuff!

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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

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If one is unsure, best get a specialist to sort things out. And I could not have found anybody better :-)

My I present, Mr William Rivers, Gunner of the Victory since 1790*.

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Aged 50 he is already one of the oldest on board and lives since 15 years on the starboard aft end of the lower deck. he told me, that his nice wooden peace-time cabin was replaced by a batten-canvas construction as it facilitates removal during war times. But as he had some materials and documents to keep, he was the only one to get a real door.

The gunroom also was separated by a batten-canvas construction from the lower deck. Also the cabin underneath the weep was done this way, the middle cabins of the gunroom and the two extra cabins in front of it were pure canvas hanging from the beams.

Through Mr River I had als the joy and honor to meet Chaplain Reverend Alexander Scott. In his typical black suit he took me to the so called school table where he held some lesons for the boys and midis.

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While Mr Rivers tries to circle around the group, holding his hat in the hand as the max headroom is very poor, this scene is watched attentively by two 2nd Lieutenant of the Marines, Mr Lewis Rotely and Mr Lewis Reeves.

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Just some impressions, seen from the gundeck ...

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... our fancy group ...

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... and Mr River, coming out of his cabin and trying to squeeze his way through.

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Cheers, Daniel

*(1793?)
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