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Hi Jim,
I don't know the accuracy of these plans, but they may be worth checking out.
I picked up a copy for my up coming build.
http://web.ipmsusa3.org/content/cvn-65- ... e-drawings
If anyone else has used these, and has some feed back I'd love to here about it. :wacko:
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I also found these sections on this site (using YAHOO):

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=81859&start=0

I wish they had some better indication of what you get with those plans on the IPMS site. That's not obscuring---it's obliterating.
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I am familiar with Patrice's work (aka rouyax) unfortunately he has been MIA for some time.
-see Doug's post above. A shame, I would really liked to have gotten a copy of his deck decal PDF.
In regards to the deck plans, I believe Tom's just protecting his "Intellectual Property", a lot of work went into the drawing. I still need to do my research, but at least it's a good starting point, and to me worth the $22.00. Pocket change compared to the amount I've spent on aftermarket parts to date!!!! :dead:
Others who are more talented than I may find it unnecessary.
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Brian001 wrote: In regards to the deck plans, I believe Tom's just protecting his "Intellectual Property", a lot of work went into the drawing. I still need to do my research, but at least it's a good starting point, and to me worth the $22.00.
I'd like to have a better idea of what I'd be getting before shelling out the money. The stuff on the IPMS site is so obscured, you have no idea.

I'm starting to build some test pieces now on the 3d printer.

I plan to be a little artistic in my build so I might not go anal in detail on the hangar deck. I plan to pick and choose features from various eras and incorporate them as I see fit.
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I've made a few quick test parts off the 3d printer. First I made some plugs to ensure I had the door openings the right size.

Here's a box I made to test the area behind the door. I am trying to decide whether the box is too deep or not.

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I would integrate this into the wall for a finished product.
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Hi Jim,
Please post more pics as your work progresses!
I don't think I've seen a 3D printer used to produce hanger details.
I look forward to seeing your results in the future, thanks for sharing.
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These are a couple of throwaways I built strictly for measurement. The oval is a plug to measure the hangar doors. It took to tries to get one to fit The printing process creates a little lip at the bottom where the part meets the table. THat actually made things easier for that part.

The other is to measure the height from the floor to the bottom of the two forward elevators and the hull width at the center elevator. I was a bitt off so another one is being built now.

The hull at the forward elevator is slightly narrower.

The problem I have is not being able to get calipers inside to get accurate measurements.

I built these small parts to see if they drop in and fit.

I think I am going to build the hangar as a rectangular box. rather than following the hull. I still need to know the precise width at the doors.


This is a great way to make use of the plastic at the end of the reel that is unusable for anything else.
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Does anyone have any measurements of the hangar?

Details and Scale and http://books.google.com/books?id=-UT7MD ... 96&f=falsegives 96x732x25
That gives about 25" length. That looks about right starting from the aft bulkhead.
The width comes out at 3-1/4. The hull is about 4-3/8" at the 2d elevator. That would make the offset from the door to the hangar nearly 1/2" at the 2d door. That seems a bit wide.


This http://books.google.com/books?id=8MwyTX ... 60&f=false gives 107x860x25.

Friedman (above) gives that dimension for CV-66.

Confused.

That seems rather long (29") Width 3- 21/32" that seems a little better.
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rtwpsom2 wrote:Okay, here it is. It is in 350th scale and shows the three main deck levels of the hangar as well as the underside of the gallery deck, which happens to be the roof of the hangar. It isn't exactly the highest quality, but I don't have a lot of time to dedicate to stuff I am not getting paid for these days.

Take it to FedEx Office (Kinko's) or whatever you have locally and they can print it for a couple dollars. Make sure and tell them to print it full size without scaling.

Hit the download button below the image:
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https://mega.nz/#!pxhlkbgD!vYxGRMvpseWg ... 2ln1P2eWoQ
This is on page 14 of this thread. Rob McCune did some drawings in his free time, of the hangar deck and posted them for everyone free of charge. If you get them printed out, you should be able to take measurements from them. Just click on the link in the quote above.
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Unfortunately, I got "The FIle Does Not Exist or is Not Available" :-(
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DavidP wrote:right click on the picture & save it as a file as that is just what i did.
Are you getting the PDF? Or just the blurry JPEG?
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I 3d printed a series of 6 supports. I need one at each door to hold up the box (plus one at each end.

Normally when I do 3d printed parts I do more planning. I just winging it here due to the difficulty of measurement
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You can contact Rob McCune directly through his account on the forum: memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=3095
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Using the information provided here, I get this for the hangar. The extension at the lower right is to allow the final support to be against the kit bulkhead for stability.

The big challenge is to position the hangar doors. That's going to require printing out a number of test pieces.

I measure the tamiya openings at 57/64" 1:350 = 26' -- a foot over sized.
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Here is a test deck section in place. It has the sides and deck in one piece. For test purposes I have the door opening cut into the side. For real ones I will have the door as one piece because it is easier to print that way.
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I made a full length deck without walls (to save time and plastic) for a test fit (which was excellent).

Now I am going to make the extensions from the doors to the walls.
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Send me an email at this username @hotmail.com and I'll email the file to you.
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Hi Rob,

Can you shed some light on what is going on with the 1/700 Dragon CVAN-65 Enterprise? Sort of seems like it fell off of the planet.

Thanks,

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Dragon doesn't really keep any of us in the loop with product updates. My personal guess is that they are having to be extremely careful and limited with their investments right now. The Zumwalt was a simple kit with few pieces and trees, and they've done a lot of reissues.
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With the Dragon 1/700 Kit.... I'd say the kit is on it way. Hobby Link has it listed as a Dec. 2014 release.. & the test shots appeared at a hobby show in late Sept. or early Oct... Here's a pic I saved from a site that had pics from the show... So, I'm hoping the kit is out soon. I have mine on pre-order from Free Time Hobbies...

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