Calling all Kriegsmarine U-boat Type VII fans
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biggles2
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Re: Calling all DKM U-boat Type VII fans
In general, for any U-Boat type, when the necessity arose of having to rescue someone from the water, or in boarding from raft or lifeboat, did the crew use any kind of temporary rope ladder, or were there ladder rungs welded to the hull side to make boarding easier? 
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Hotkey
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Re: Calling all DKM U-boat Type VII fans
Hello from Illinois. I have both the 1/72 VII and VII/C41 to build. I have the photo etch sets for both but realize that does not include a wintergarten like you've printed! But, I'm confused. Can I buy either plastic or brass or just plastic?kawubke wrote:I am sorry but i can't. The Bounding Box Settings for the the new FXD material are to small.davidwaples wrote:That's amazing Thomas! Are you going to release the first rendering in the new higher resolution offering? I would like to order a set and would like to try that newer printing option.
Thanks for sharing your work
Dave
The Maximum bounding box is 50mm x 50mm x 200mm but the Modell dimensions are 5.344mm x 5.384mm x 2.716mm therefore it's not possible to print it in FXD. I could scale the Modell down but then it will not fit.
So the only possible print Option is FUD.
Greetings from Germany
Thomas
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kawubke
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Re: Calling all DKM U-boat Type VII fans
Hi,Hello from Illinois. I have both the 1/72 VII and VII/C41 to build. I have the photo etch sets for both but realize that does not include a wintergarten like you've printed! But, I'm confused. Can I buy either plastic or brass or just plastic?
i have made both the Brass and Plastic Version available to buy.
The Brass Version does not have the Isolators like the Plasic Version.
Brass:
https://www.shapeways.com/product/WZ5CJ ... ss-version
Plastic FUD:
https://www.shapeways.com/product/GSVNY ... arten-1-72
Regards from Germany
Thomas
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Hotkey
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What is the purpose of the Ioslators?kawubke wrote:Hi,Hello from Illinois. I have both the 1/72 VII and VII/C41 to build. I have the photo etch sets for both but realize that does not include a wintergarten like you've printed! But, I'm confused. Can I buy either plastic or brass or just plastic?
i have made both the Brass and Plastic Version available to buy.
The Brass Version does not have the Isolators like the Plasic Version.
Thomas
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kawubke
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Re: Calling all DKM U-boat Type VII fans
These Isolaors prevent a static overload of the low Frequenzy Antenna Cables.Hotkey wrote:What is the purpose of the Ioslators?
here you can see them on a Typ VIIc
Regards from Germany
Thomas
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Hotkey
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That's what I thought! I just didn't see them in the photo of your product.kawubke wrote:These Isolaors prevent a static overload of the low Frequenzy Antenna Cables.Hotkey wrote:What is the purpose of the Ioslators?
here you can see them on a Typ VIIc
Regards from Germany
Thomas
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kawubke
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Re: Calling all DKM U-boat Type VII fans
there are in the middle of the Wintergarten
Thomas
Thomas
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Hotkey
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Oh!!!! Haha I'm blind! I see the little guys now just waiting to be cut up! Di they match those that would be used on the front on the sail?kawubke wrote:there are in the middle of the Wintergarten
Thomas
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kawubke
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Re: Calling all DKM U-boat Type VII fans
no Problem.Hotkey wrote:Oh!!!! Haha I'm blind! I see the little guys now just waiting to be cut up! Di they match those that would be used on the front on the sail?kawubke wrote:there are in the middle of the Wintergarten
Thomas
What do you mean with Front on the Sail?
The Front of the Conning Tower? There is only 1 smal Isolator. That one is present in the Kit. The 2 Conning Tower Back Isolators are not in the Kit.
I have drilled mine out and replaced him with a smal HO Scale Isolator.
Thomas
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biggles2
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U-Boat Type VII C
Yesterday I bought a Revell Type VII C (bit late to the party!) after having bought the Revell/ICM Type II. I was amazed at the fine-ness of the Type II thin parts - the railing; the periscopes; and especially the 2 cm gun. I was more than a bit disappointed by the lack of such fine-ness on the Type VII. I understand Griffon makes an AM set for that. Anyone know if it's still in production, or still available? 
- marengtech
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This is all that Griffon has:biggles2 wrote:Yesterday I bought a Revell Type VII C (bit late to the party!) after having bought the Revell/ICM Type II. I was amazed at the fine-ness of the Type II thin parts - the railing; the periscopes; and especially the 2 cm gun. I was more than a bit disappointed by the lack of such fine-ness on the Type VII. I understand Griffon makes an AM set for that. Anyone know if it's still in production, or still available?
http://griffonmodel.com/product_view.as ... classid=79
http://griffonmodel.com/product_view.as ... classid=79
the last link I bought for my Type VII C
I though earlier in this thread there was a link from another company for a full detail up set if I remember correctly but for some reason its not saved in my favorites. I did buy the set from Pontos however which comes with brass screws.
Hope this helps.
Gerry
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JCRAY
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Re: Calling all DKM U-boat Type VII fans
L'Arsenal has resin details too!
Check them out.
John
Check them out.
John
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- krgf15
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Re: Calling all DKM U-boat Type VII fans
Hi guys, Ive been away for awhile. Whats the word on this 1/48 Trumpeter Type VII. Is it just a re-pop of the ARK models kit?
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DarrenH
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No it does not appear to be a repopped version of Ark kit.
Looks very nice but I have only seen a video review highlighting very nice quality clear hull.
No idea on shapes etc but parts and the figures looked good.
Hoping to see more soon.
Looks very nice but I have only seen a video review highlighting very nice quality clear hull.
No idea on shapes etc but parts and the figures looked good.
Hoping to see more soon.
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Tom Dougherty
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Re: Calling all DKM U-boat Type VII fans
Some photos and details are available on the Trumpeter Type VII 1/48 kit. Most notably, it features an interior cut away with a clear starboard hull. A set of photos are here:
https://www.megahobby.com/products/dkm- ... peter.html
Stand by for real sticker shock: List is $599, but Mega Hobby will give it to you for "only" $399. In addition to a very healthy wallet, you'll need a lot of shelf space at 55 inches (5 feet, 7 inches). Also a lot of glue (at 1100 pieces), a lot of paint, and a whole lot of spare time.
From the description:
U-BOAT TYPE VIIC U-552 1/48 TRUMPETER. The first U-boat of this size ever created in plastic model form, this kit includes over 1,100 parts on 25 sprues, including a one-piece hull and one photo-etched piece. The completed kit is over 55 inches long and features a clear starboard side hull for viewing the interior detail. The completed kit measures 57" x 18" x 7". Kit also includes figures.
https://www.megahobby.com/products/dkm- ... peter.html
Stand by for real sticker shock: List is $599, but Mega Hobby will give it to you for "only" $399. In addition to a very healthy wallet, you'll need a lot of shelf space at 55 inches (5 feet, 7 inches). Also a lot of glue (at 1100 pieces), a lot of paint, and a whole lot of spare time.
From the description:
U-BOAT TYPE VIIC U-552 1/48 TRUMPETER. The first U-boat of this size ever created in plastic model form, this kit includes over 1,100 parts on 25 sprues, including a one-piece hull and one photo-etched piece. The completed kit is over 55 inches long and features a clear starboard side hull for viewing the interior detail. The completed kit measures 57" x 18" x 7". Kit also includes figures.
Tom Dougherty
Researcher for: "Project Azorian�
https://www.amazon.com/Azorian-Raising- ... B008QTU7QY
"Project Azorian: The CIA and the Raising of the K-129" Book
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Researcher for: "Project Azorian�
https://www.amazon.com/Azorian-Raising- ... B008QTU7QY
"Project Azorian: The CIA and the Raising of the K-129" Book
https://www.usni.org/press/books/project-azorian
- NigelR32
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Re: Calling all DKM U-boat Type VII fans
From the description:
U-BOAT TYPE VIIC U-552 1/48 TRUMPETER. The first U-boat of this size ever created in plastic model form, this kit includes over 1,100 parts on 25 sprues, including a one-piece hull and one photo-etched piece.
I have this kit, and have gone through it, doing some reference work along the way online.
The kit actually has 1383 parts if you include the crew and PE. It is spread over 36 sprues, two hull sides, a one piece stern, one PE fret and one decal sheet.
From what I can gather there are errors in the free flooding vents if you depict U552, but the patterns depicted in the kit don't suit any particular vessel, just like Revell. If you build the kit OOB it will depict 552 around Christmas 1940 as she had no extended windbreak, breakwaters still in place and net cutters fitted then. Yes, it took me all weekend to work this out!!
U-BOAT TYPE VIIC U-552 1/48 TRUMPETER. The first U-boat of this size ever created in plastic model form, this kit includes over 1,100 parts on 25 sprues, including a one-piece hull and one photo-etched piece.
I have this kit, and have gone through it, doing some reference work along the way online.
The kit actually has 1383 parts if you include the crew and PE. It is spread over 36 sprues, two hull sides, a one piece stern, one PE fret and one decal sheet.
From what I can gather there are errors in the free flooding vents if you depict U552, but the patterns depicted in the kit don't suit any particular vessel, just like Revell. If you build the kit OOB it will depict 552 around Christmas 1940 as she had no extended windbreak, breakwaters still in place and net cutters fitted then. Yes, it took me all weekend to work this out!!
Regards
Nigel
Nigel
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Re: Calling all DKM U-boat Type VII fans
I was planning on building the conning tower first and immediately hit a brick wall..
I see the trumpy 1/48 kit has the same issue as the Revell kit in that the side intake vents are actually longer than the airducts themselves. For example, if I open up the vents, then fit the ducts inside the tower I will see daylight through the front area of the vent.
So.. Was the intake ducting shaped at its top to slope around the vent or is the kits vent simply not wide enough? I have searched online and in my two books and can't find a definitive answer. I would assume the intake duct is too narrow as depicted in the kit because trumpeter probably scaled up the Revell kit anyway??
I see the trumpy 1/48 kit has the same issue as the Revell kit in that the side intake vents are actually longer than the airducts themselves. For example, if I open up the vents, then fit the ducts inside the tower I will see daylight through the front area of the vent.
So.. Was the intake ducting shaped at its top to slope around the vent or is the kits vent simply not wide enough? I have searched online and in my two books and can't find a definitive answer. I would assume the intake duct is too narrow as depicted in the kit because trumpeter probably scaled up the Revell kit anyway??
Regards
Nigel
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Tracy White
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Re: Calling all DKM U-boat Type VII fans
I don't have an answer for you (yet, I'm away from references but will look tonight) but might have a similar question. I have the 48th kit as well and am leaning towards painting over the clear and then cutting holes in a more traditional cutaway manner (The clear is exceptionally well done however and it seems a shame). I would like to represent some of the structure inside the saddle tanks and pressure hull, more so than what is in the kit. The AOTS Type VII book doesn't have much information though; are there any sources that have good drawings of said structures?
Tracy White -Researcher@Large
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Re: Calling all DKM U-boat Type VII fans
I'm still searching and have tonight been watching videos on youtube of wreck dives to see if anything becomes clear??Tracy White wrote:I don't have an answer for you (yet, I'm away from references but will look tonight) but might have a similar question. I have the 48th kit as well and am leaning towards painting over the clear and then cutting holes in a more traditional cutaway manner (The clear is exceptionally well done however and it seems a shame). I would like to represent some of the structure inside the saddle tanks and pressure hull, more so than what is in the kit. The AOTS Type VII book doesn't have much information though; are there any sources that have good drawings of said structures?
I've been thinking the same thing Tracy. To correct the holes and bits and pieces in the clear side would be very difficult to keep it looking good and remain clear. I guess you could also cut away the tower on the starboard side too with some added detail in the attack room?
Showing off the pressure hull and saddle detail was however a detail I hadn't considered.. good idea!
Anyone know where i can get some 1/48 scale Salami??


