Calling all Iowa-class (BB-61) fans
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class (BB-61) fans
Here's one I took five years ago.
Boy... the picture size limitation had me going back and editing 4 times before I got it right.
Boy... the picture size limitation had me going back and editing 4 times before I got it right.
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class (BB-61) fans
+1 FWIW. Another user who shares your frustration.Builder 2010 wrote: Boy... the picture size limitation had me going back and editing 4 times before I got it right.
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class (BB-61) fans
Does anyone have clear picture showing the port side of aft end of the Missouri's superstructure during 1945? I want to verify the configuration of drain pipes, cable conduits and the perforated reinforcing beams around the aft air defence platform, and whether there was indeed a ladder on both sides from superstructure level 2 to level 3 just ahead of the aft air defence platform.
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class (BB-61) fans
Chuck,
See if this is what you're looking for: Hope that helps!
See if this is what you're looking for: Hope that helps!
HMS III
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Antenna Platform
Currently, the NJ has a large antenna platform forward the aft stack. The platform has a large extension with a semicircular end that goes past the phalanx platform below.
There is nothing on that platform. Was anything there?
When I look at reference photos of the ship in service, I have found none with this extension. There is just the single bar extending across the ship. Does anyone know the story of this platform?
There is nothing on that platform. Was anything there?
When I look at reference photos of the ship in service, I have found none with this extension. There is just the single bar extending across the ship. Does anyone know the story of this platform?
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class (BB-61) fans
Jim, here's a photo of a dome in that position from 1989: http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/0162009.jpg
You'll find better photos of it from her sisters, especially Wisconsin and Missouri as they served for several years longer with it. As I recall, it's the control and data antenna for the Pioneer drone.
You'll find better photos of it from her sisters, especially Wisconsin and Missouri as they served for several years longer with it. As I recall, it's the control and data antenna for the Pioneer drone.
De quoi s'agit-il?
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class (BB-61) fans
Jim,
Here is a stbd. side elevation view but it is w/o equipment, just the platform & supports: This antenna platform was an addition, sometime in the mid-late '80s. Here is perhaps a better shot showing the entire after stack yardarm with nav. points, as well: That's about all I can provide you at this time.
Hank
Here is a stbd. side elevation view but it is w/o equipment, just the platform & supports: This antenna platform was an addition, sometime in the mid-late '80s. Here is perhaps a better shot showing the entire after stack yardarm with nav. points, as well: That's about all I can provide you at this time.
Hank
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BB62 vet 68-69
Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, Various Lg Scale FC Directors
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48
Mocksville, NC
BB62 vet 68-69
Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, Various Lg Scale FC Directors
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class (BB-61) fans
This is what is puzzling me. Here is a 1984 picture and it does not have that platform; just the arms.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/0162013.jpg
The earliest pictures I have found with that platform are of the decommissioning. Even then, nothing was on the platform.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/0162013.jpg
The earliest pictures I have found with that platform are of the decommissioning. Even then, nothing was on the platform.
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class (BB-61) fans
What's puzzling, Jim? She had the dome on that platform near the end of her service, and had it removed prior to decommissioning as with her sisters.
Timmy C wrote:Jim, here's a photo of a dome in that position from 1989: http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/0162009.jpg
You'll find better photos of it from her sisters, especially Wisconsin and Missouri as they served for several years longer with it. As I recall, it's the control and data antenna for the Pioneer drone.
De quoi s'agit-il?
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class (BB-61) fans
That's the first picture I have seen with the dome in place on the NJ.Timmy C wrote:What's puzzling, Jim? She had the dome on that platform near the end of her service, and had it removed prior to decommissioning as with her sisters.Timmy C wrote:Jim, here's a photo of a dome in that position from 1989: http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/0162009.jpg
You'll find better photos of it from her sisters, especially Wisconsin and Missouri as they served for several years longer with it. As I recall, it's the control and data antenna for the Pioneer drone.
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class (BB-61) fans
I am looking for the dimensions of the vents at the forward part of the O1 level. They are listed on the plans as bucket vents but they look like low mushroom vents.
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class (BB-61) fans
Jim,
I will see if they are shown in TFDs MISSIOURI Plan Book drawings and email you a .pdf of the details in the morning (Thurs.)
And, YES - they are Mushroom Vents.
Hank
I will see if they are shown in TFDs MISSIOURI Plan Book drawings and email you a .pdf of the details in the morning (Thurs.)
And, YES - they are Mushroom Vents.
Hank
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Mocksville, NC
BB62 vet 68-69
Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, Various Lg Scale FC Directors
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48
Mocksville, NC
BB62 vet 68-69
Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, Various Lg Scale FC Directors
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class (BB-61) fans
Thanks. That helps.BB62vet wrote:Chuck,
See if this is what you're looking for: Hope that helps!
It looks to me like the steam pipe leading to the whistle does have a flat run between the funnel and the foremast. But these it is painted deck blue and hard to see.
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MK-137 Launcher
Does anyone have measurements for the MK-137 SRBOC launchers?
I am also looking for reference photos of the O3 level aft of the forward stack, in particular the ladder up to the tomahawk platform.
I am also looking for reference photos of the O3 level aft of the forward stack, in particular the ladder up to the tomahawk platform.
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Re: *Inj. molded plastic* Upcoming Ship Kit Releases
However, according to some pictures from Navsource, USS Iowa didn't have any searchlight on the top of its bridge from November 1943 to 1945.Atma wrote:Thats good news indeed !SovereignHobbies wrote:I've given the VeryFire guys a shout with a link to this page of the thread. The searchlight can be as simple as a particular piece of the 3D model not selected for the render.
UPDATE: the "missing" searchlight is indeed in the kit.
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Re: *Inj. molded plastic* Upcoming Ship Kit Releases
Dont trust dates on this site. The pictures you have posted are all early 1943. At least the ones with no searchlight is all before 28 March 1943.She was not fully commissioned when she lucked the searchlight. And this alone is very curious to choose as a time frame for a 100+ Euro model.W.H.min wrote: However, according to some pictures from Navsource, USS Iowa didn't have any searchlight on the top of its bridge from November 1943 to 1945.
If they wanted to portray an early 1943 USS Iowa as commissioned she must look like this:

the second is a 3 months later.

Notice the difference on number #2 turret and the conning tower. Missing Searchlight from Very Fire kit is still there. The picture especially the ones with the camouflage is ealry 1944. The close one on the bridge is before march 1943.
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Re: *Inj. molded plastic* Upcoming Ship Kit Releases
Atma wrote:Dont trust dates on this site. The pictures you have posted are all early 1943. At least the ones with no searchlight is all before 28 March 1943.She was not fully commissioned when she lucked the searchlight. And this alone is very curious to choose as a time frame for a 100+ Euro model.W.H.min wrote: However, according to some pictures from Navsource, USS Iowa didn't have any searchlight on the top of its bridge from November 1943 to 1945.
If they wanted to portray an early 1943 USS Iowa as commissioned she must look like this:
the second is a 3 months later.
Notice the difference on number #2 turret and the conning tower. Missing Searchlight from Very Fire kit is still there. The picture especially the ones with the camouflage is ealry 1944. The close one on the bridge is before march 1943.
So the open bridge above the chart room was completely eliminated by July 1943?
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class (BB-61) fans
Not sure, but notice the roof is from canvas(?) not yet solid metal. It had to be retractable, notice the early 1944 dont have the roof.
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Re: *Inj. molded plastic* Upcoming Ship Kit Releases
Why do you think they want that? The boxart with dazzle camo clearly indicates they're more interested in a later period.Atma wrote:
If they wanted to portray an early 1943 USS Iowa as commissioned
De quoi s'agit-il?
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Re: Calling all USS Iowa class (BB-61) fans
Im not sure what period Very Fire want the USS Iowa, notice it has 1943 items and 1945 sea planes.