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Thank you for the photos!

It is difficult to guess the colour of the decks, especially on the upper photo there appear to be two or three colours of the deck, which is unlikely. It is more likely that is only an impression caused by the different materials and shadows. It would be uniformly grey and it could be unpainted planked decks

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Gents,

Does anyone know if there exist any 'drawings' showing exactly where HMS Exeter was hit by Graf Spee, and more specifically the trajectory of the shells into / inside the ship (along the lines of drawing/s occasionally seen, IIRC, for HMS Prince of Wales after Bismarck action)?

Been reading the book, 'Exeter. A Cruiser Of The Medium Size' (EXCELLENT by the way, although 'action' doesn't start until at least 2/3rd's through, but still EXCELLENT nevertheless) and the authour gives a VERY descriptive account of all (or I think all) shell hits and describes any trajectories for the ones that made it inside the ship, so wondering if there were ever any AAR drawing/s made of said trajectories? (And yes, I have seen all or many of the pics of Exeter after she limped back to the Falklands, and know where the hits were in general, but would be very interested to actually 'see' the trajectories of any that penetrated as the book describes - as opposed to the ones detonating when they hit the ship, as several did on the forward turrets, and elsewhere, along with some very very near misses.)

TIA for any help.

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“We are off to look for trouble. I expect we shall find it.” Capt. Tennant, HMS Repulse. 8 December 1941
“A review of the situation at about 1100 was not encouraging.” Capt. Gordon, HMS Exeter. 1 March 1942

The Trumpeter 1/350 Exeter kit is due on the 1st November in the UK according to one UK stockist/online retailer.

It's out. I just bought one from my local hobby store. Looks pretty darn nice.

- Sean F.

Will you post pictures of it? I am pretty much interesting in getting one!

Marco

Can't do it tonight... worked late, and now still prepping my models and packing for a 4AM departure (i.e in 4.5 hours from now) and 6 hour drive to Modelzona... I'll take it along and try to take some shots in the motel room tomorrow night.

- Sean F.

They're not the best photos... taken in a motel room with the available lighting and without a camera stand, but it's all I can do for now. I decided against photographing the Walruses; the clear plastic would be hard to see in photos, and they're the same ones they've already produced. I do wish the PE set would've included wing braces to replace the solid plastic ones.

Thanks SeanF for the photos. waiting on my from Freetime to show up.

Looks good! Thank you for posting, Sean. Full hull, will be necessary to cut for a waterline display. I wonder about time to aftermarkets.

Marco

I have been looking for pictures of the 2 pounder AA guns on HMS Exeter (1939, Battle of the River Plate), and can´t really find much about them, supposedly QF Mk II 2 pounders (40mm). Are there any pictures available to see the specific type? (and any aftermarkets in 1/350?)

Marco

See here:
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNBR_2pounder_m2.php

Perhaps AJM has that gun in 1/350?

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Thank you, I just could find a set of metal gun barrels for the BL 8" main guns (although the set says Mk VII, they say "for HMS Norfolk", too, which used the BL 8"/50 Mk VIII), the QF 4" barrels, but not the proper QF Mk II 2 pounder- Will keep on searching.

Marco

I don''t think Exeter got 2 pdr guns until her repair after River Platte. That could be why you can't find a photo.

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Our CO prior to flying to the boomer: “Our goals on this patrol is to shoot missiles and torpedoes.”
Junior Nuke Officer (me) : “Captain, don’t we really want to be like Monty Python and ‘Not be seen’?”
CO “You seem to be missing the big picture”
“Oh”

EXETER's single 2pdrs abreast the bridge had gone by 1939. Photos of her damage after the Battle of the River Plate show quadruple 0.5" Vickers machine gun mountings there, which had apparently replaced the 2 pdrs in 1934-35. As Captain Morgan said, she had 2pdrs fitted aft, in octuple mountings, during her battle damage repairs.

Well this is news to me. I know that the cuadruple (Mk VIII?) 2-pounders were installed only after repairs, I was referring to the Mk II, single barrel mount reported as original armament. No luck finding picture of either the 2 pounder nor the Vickers 0.50" mounts that you mention, could you provide a reference where to find them?


Marco

Quadruple 0.5", try this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... ge1939.jpg (stbd mounting visible to left of photo).
Quadruple 2pdr, not sure - never seen any reference saying they were ever fitted. Octuple ones - several photos online (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... _A3555.jpg).
Single 2pdr - not fitted in 1939.

Thank you all. Knowing now what to look for (not familiar with british naval AA guns), it is clearly seen in pictures after the Battle of the River Plate. This one not from Exeter of course, just to illustrate the Quadruple 0.50"




Marco

My HMS Exeter (Trumpeter 1/350) arrived today, and I am relieved to see that it has the correct AAs as used in December 1939, i.e., Vickers 0.50” quadruples.

Marco

I'm building mine now, as OOB as I can (trying to avoid "sinking" into another never-ending modification project which multiplies time and effort necessary!) but have a question I hope someone can shed some light on.

The raised deck ahead of the bridge upon which B-turret is mounted is depicted by Trumpeter as a steel deck with no wooden planking. The painting guide suggests a light beige tone however. Julian Glossop's model, which whilst acknowledged not to be very accurate, shows a light brown here. The only photos I can find on Google images looking from above have the awnings erected over the decks (going through the Panama Canal) and are therefore as helpful as a chocolate fireguard.



I assume this was either planked, painted in Dark Grey paint, covered in linoleum or covered in trowel-on latex non-slip compound.

Any ideas? I'm hoping not to stall on this model and maintain some momentum.

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James Duff
Sovereign Hobbies Ltd
http://www.sovereignhobbies.co.uk

Current build:
HMS Imperial D09 1/350
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=167151

I've since come across this image which zooms in a long way. It seems to show planking on the gun deck around B-turret (thanks Trumpeter ), linoleum on the bridge as evidenced by the fastening strips visible, and dark grey paint on the rest.

https://ww2db.com/images/5922f936671dc.jpg

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James Duff
Sovereign Hobbies Ltd
http://www.sovereignhobbies.co.uk

Current build:
HMS Imperial D09 1/350
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=167151