Calling all Kriegsmarine Light Cruiser fans
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Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Light Cruiser fans
IMHO, a conversion from the Flyhawk Konigsberg shouldn't be too difficult: if waterlined, plastic strip for the torpedo bulges; new cranes (are these the same type on Prinz Eugen, or similar?); a new mast - pretty simple; funnel caps - fiddly, but do-able. If more difficult please list the parts.

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Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Light Cruiser fans
There were not only bulges added, but the hull was widened up to the upperdeck level. The decks are different - planked (Karlsruhe, K�ln) vs. linoleum (K�nigsberg). The superstructure of all three ships was always different. That is true for both the bridge as well as for the rear superstructure. The platforms on the foremast were different, Karlsruhe had 105 mm anti-aircraft guns (K�nigsberg 88 mm) etc. etc.
The parts which can be used are the 150 mm turrets, 37 mm twins, 20 mm single, some range finders, the torpedo tubes, some boats, the catapult and probably some other small parts.
The parts which can be used are the 150 mm turrets, 37 mm twins, 20 mm single, some range finders, the torpedo tubes, some boats, the catapult and probably some other small parts.
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Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Light Cruiser fans
Thank you Maxim and PaulC, very complete and detailed explanation of the differences among these sisters!maxim wrote:There were not only bulges added, but the hull was widened up to the upperdeck level. The decks are different - planked (Karlsruhe, K�ln) vs. linoleum (K�nigsberg). The superstructure of all three ships was always different. That is true for both the bridge as well as for the rear superstructure. The platforms on the foremast were different, Karlsruhe had 105 mm anti-aircraft guns (K�nigsberg 88 mm) etc. etc.
The parts which can be used are the 150 mm turrets, 37 mm twins, 20 mm single, some range finders, the torpedo tubes, some boats, the catapult and probably some other small parts.
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Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Light Cruiser fans
One additional point: K�nigsberg was part of Gruppe III, which attacked Bergen. The other cruiser in that group was K�ln, not Karlsruhe.
K�ln was more similar to K�nigsberg, but still the bridge and the rear superstructure were different and also K�ln had in contrast to K�nigsberg a planked deck.
K�ln was more similar to K�nigsberg, but still the bridge and the rear superstructure were different and also K�ln had in contrast to K�nigsberg a planked deck.
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Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Light Cruiser fans
I have a list of CASF threads that I want to update, this one isn't even on that list yet. I'll get to it, in good time.Haijun watcher wrote:I am surprised that the new 1/700 Flyhawk Konigsberg has not been mentioned on this thread, considering it was mentioned in at least two other threads.
Perhaps the moderator could please modify the first post of this thread to list the Flyhawk kit as well?
Meanwhile, a review of the Flyhawk kit was posted on this site earlier this year.
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Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Light Cruiser fans
Today, 80 years ago, the light cruiser K�nigsberg was sunk by Royal Navy Skua dive bomber in Bergen.
I built the model using the FlyHawk kit:



(with SMS Pillau and SMS Emden)
K�nigsberg (FlyHawk, 1/700)
The FlyHawk kit is nice. It is only a little bit complicated to find out, which parts should be used if the Deluxe Edition is built, because there are two separate instructions and the one for the Deluxe parts is not so clear and well ordered. I painted the deck red brown, because I think the photos show the linoleum still to be present on 8th of April (The German Invasion of Norway. April 1940 by Geirrr H Haarr, p. 102). There are also no painted on air recognition markings visible on that photo (except of a flag laying on the forecastle).
I built the model using the FlyHawk kit:



(with SMS Pillau and SMS Emden)
K�nigsberg (FlyHawk, 1/700)
The FlyHawk kit is nice. It is only a little bit complicated to find out, which parts should be used if the Deluxe Edition is built, because there are two separate instructions and the one for the Deluxe parts is not so clear and well ordered. I painted the deck red brown, because I think the photos show the linoleum still to be present on 8th of April (The German Invasion of Norway. April 1940 by Geirrr H Haarr, p. 102). There are also no painted on air recognition markings visible on that photo (except of a flag laying on the forecastle).
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Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Light Cruiser fans
Just in: Karlsruhe's wreck has been located. She was initially found back in April 2017, but her wreck wasn't IDed until June of this year. She sits upright in just over 1,600 feet of water with her bow missing and all main turrets still in place.
https://www.nrk.no/norge/stort-vrakfunn ... 1.15141691
https://www.nrk.no/norge/stort-vrakfunn ... 1.15141691

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Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Light Cruiser fans
ijnfleetadmiral wrote:Just in: Karlsruhe'......She sits upright in just over 1,600 feet of water with her bow missing and all main turrets still in place.
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