Agree...they could be doing a lot better than what they produce! They have decades of injection plastic experience over Flyhawk, and Flyhawk comes along (seemingly out of nowhere) and are producing incredible models! Both Chinese companies, so no advantages there, so it seems to be just laziness on Trumpeter's part.potchip wrote: The sad thing is Trumpeter can chuck in high end injection moulding parts if they wanted to ...
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Maybe not only lazyness - decades of experience means Trumpeter has much older machines then FH, and these are extremely expensive, so not just "scrap and replace".... And I suppose the technics does not stand still here...
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I just made a plastic kit equal to Flyhawk in quality. It's about having a good, thoughtful designer knowledgeable about their subject, and good tool and die makers to make it a reality. There also has to be a conscientiousness about maintaining the quality through each project. That carries over to future projects and makes a tradition and an expectation of quality. The toolmakers at several points made changes to the parts I didn't approve of, thinking they would better serve the process. I told them no, it's not the way the parts should be. That insistence on quality comes from someone who cares about what they are doing. I care about what I am doing and my new kit shows that.
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The thing with Trumpeter is that their plastic kit business is but a tiny part of the whole enterprise and is not their core business.
They make all kinds of plastic products, from the tiny kit parts to large moldings like car dashboards, kitchen utensils and the like.
They make all kinds of plastic products, from the tiny kit parts to large moldings like car dashboards, kitchen utensils and the like.
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I guess that means I'm doing it better than Trumpeter now, and on the first tryGuest wrote:The thing with Trumpeter is that their plastic kit business is but a tiny part of the whole enterprise and is not their core business.
They make all kinds of plastic products, from the tiny kit parts to large moldings like car dashboards, kitchen utensils and the like.
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Thats for sure!
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Trumpeter doesn't have to spend money on improving tooling and techniques because they know people are going to buy their kits anyway.

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I found some pics of your HMS Colossus, it seems good. But frankly speaking, it cannot equal to Flyhawk in quality. The AA weapons, search lights, rafts and some other little parts of Flyhawk are much better than any 1/700 competitor now. Trumpeter, Hasegawa, Aoshima, Tamiya, Fujimi, Veryfire, Orangehobby, Blueridge, none of them could even get close to Flyhawk. Pit-road 1/700 IJN Yamato is the only product can match Flyhawk.Mike@IHP wrote:I just made a plastic kit equal to Flyhawk in quality. It's about having a good, thoughtful designer knowledgeable about their subject, and good tool and die makers to make it a reality. There also has to be a conscientiousness about maintaining the quality through each project. That carries over to future projects and makes a tradition and an expectation of quality. The toolmakers at several points made changes to the parts I didn't approve of, thinking they would better serve the process. I told them no, it's not the way the parts should be. That insistence on quality comes from someone who cares about what they are doing. I care about what I am doing and my new kit shows that.
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Do you have the kit at hand?W.H.min wrote:I found some pics of your HMS Colossus, it seems good. But frankly speaking, it cannot equal to Flyhawk in quality. The AA weapons, search lights, rafts and some other little parts of Flyhawk are much better than any 1/700 competitor now. Trumpeter, Hasegawa, Aoshima, Tamiya, Fujimi, Veryfire, Orangehobby, Blueridge, none of them could even get close to Flyhawk. Pit-road 1/700 IJN Yamato is the only product can match Flyhawk.
There is still a long way to go.
Just curious
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Obviously he does not. So his opinion is invalid. And biased bulls**t.Quaestor wrote:Do you have the kit at hand?W.H.min wrote:I found some pics of your HMS Colossus, it seems good. But frankly speaking, it cannot equal to Flyhawk in quality. The AA weapons, search lights, rafts and some other little parts of Flyhawk are much better than any 1/700 competitor now. Trumpeter, Hasegawa, Aoshima, Tamiya, Fujimi, Veryfire, Orangehobby, Blueridge, none of them could even get close to Flyhawk. Pit-road 1/700 IJN Yamato is the only product can match Flyhawk.
There is still a long way to go.
Just curious
I'd rather hear from people who DO have the kit and hear their honest opinions. It's early but so far I've only been hearing from people who have been pleasantly surprised by the Colossus and this is because they have the kit. And they don't have an agenda, like this......guy obviously does. But I also won't be put on trial for what I have done with the Colossus. Better to let the product do the talking. It can stand against any 1/700 ship kit on the planet, and what I have learned from it will only make IHP's future plastic kits better.
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Having watched Mike's process of including as much detail as possible and within the constraints of styrene modeling, I can vouch for the quality of this kit. I personally feel that the quality is far better than most kit manufacturers and can stand with many of the new Flyhawk styrene parts.W.H.min wrote:I found some pics of your HMS Colossus, it seems good. But frankly speaking, it cannot equal to Flyhawk in quality. The AA weapons, search lights, rafts and some other little parts of Flyhawk are much better than any 1/700 competitor now. Trumpeter, Hasegawa, Aoshima, Tamiya, Fujimi, Veryfire, Orangehobby, Blueridge, none of them could even get close to Flyhawk. Pit-road 1/700 IJN Yamato is the only product can match Flyhawk.
There is still a long way to go.
IMO: Less trashing new kits/manufacturers, more being happy that we've got such a wealth of options available.
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Hey folks, can we keep this thread to just discussing upcoming new releases? If there are discussions to be had over the quality of already-released kits, please do so in a separate thread (and try to keep it civil, backing up claims and counterclaims with good evidence). Thanks!
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I have started to document my build of the new IHP kit at the Carrier Builders' yard thread. Any other carrieroholics are welcome to discuss the new kit here.
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Timmy C wrote:Hey folks, can we keep this thread to just discussing upcoming new releases? If there are discussions to be had over the quality of already-released kits, please do so in a separate thread (and try to keep it civil, backing up claims and counterclaims with good evidence). Thanks!
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Anyone know what specific ship the Trumpeter Dido Class box art depicts? My limited Dido Class reference material is pretty much the old Ensign #2 from 1973.
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I think it might be HMS Naiad ,Roger:Roger Torgeson wrote:Anyone know what specific ship the Trumpeter Dido Class box art depicts? My limited Dido Class reference material is pretty much the old Ensign #2 from 1973.
https://www.world-war.co.uk/Dido/naiad.php3
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It is HMS Naiad and depicts her in 1940-41 - note the Artist has completed the box art for all 3 ships of this Class advertised by TrumpeterRoger Torgeson wrote:Anyone know what specific ship the Trumpeter Dido Class box art depicts? My limited Dido Class reference material is pretty much the old Ensign #2 from 1973.
( always a great sign release will eventually happen )
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Nothing to come in January 2020 from Trumpeter,what a good way to start the New Year
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From what I�ve heard the 1/200 Titanic is suppose to start showing up State side in mid-late January.....
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Flyhawk Battle of the Atlantic (J class) available now on E-bay and other Eastern sellers.