Calling all USS Yorktown CV-5 fans
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Absolutely. Tracy White sent me some of Yorktown's documentation and one of the notations on page three of the departure report when Yorktown left Norfolk in December of '41 is "BI RADAR - completed".
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Thanks for the confirmation Dick. Not having my magnifying glass, it appeared they could be alike. I wonder if Tracy could pass that info along or is he using it for an upcoming project?
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USS Yorktown at Norfolk Navy Yard, November 1938. Note Enterprise in the foreground. Photo from National Archives NARA II, RG 71-CA (Yards and Docks), courtesy of Roger Torgeson.
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Charybdis
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What a great find! Thanks for sharing.
Is that a huge flag pole on the aft flight deck of Enterprise?
Is that a huge flag pole on the aft flight deck of Enterprise?
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I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that is a temporary radio mast. You can see one on Yorktown, as well, in the famous drydock photo of her at Pearl before Midway.
And thanks to Roger for sharing the photo, and Martin for posting it.
And thanks to Roger for sharing the photo, and Martin for posting it.
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Charybdis
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I've just checked the builder's plans and it's there labeled as a mast for an anchor light.
It's an unusual aspect of the ship. I'd love to have a larger resolution of this photo.
It's an unusual aspect of the ship. I'd love to have a larger resolution of this photo.
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Charybdis PM just sent on getting a larger copy
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Charybdis wrote:
Obviously in the late '30s and way before RADAR masts came into being, this temporary anchor light mast was erected to serve that purpose on carriers coming out of yard maintenance when extensive work or modernization occurred.
This is not an unusual detail. I've noticed on quite a few Booklet of General Plans of battleships (especially) that there is shown a mast with usually 3 lights that is added somewhere on the bridge of the ship which, in reality, is never actually constructed as shown or in the very least, is the builder's way of adding the usual navigation lights on a temporary basis (say thru acceptance trials) and then struck when the lamps are permanently placed in their normal positions on yardarms and pole mast extensions, etc.I've just checked the builder's plans and it's there labeled as a mast for an anchor light.
Obviously in the late '30s and way before RADAR masts came into being, this temporary anchor light mast was erected to serve that purpose on carriers coming out of yard maintenance when extensive work or modernization occurred.
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The temporary mast was a permanent feature used by the ships at times when transiting without aircraft operations or in port. You can see photos of this on other ships such as
CV-1 Langley or this on of CV-4 Ranger. It was retractable in most ships.
CV-1 Langley or this on of CV-4 Ranger. It was retractable in most ships.
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Added a list of available kits and gallery entries to the first page
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Dear all
I finally managed to enter the forum ( THANK YOU OWNER)..
I will introduce myself.
My name is Gregory l live in Belgium I won't consider myself an expert but i really enjoy making models and dioramas
recently l made dioramas in scale 1/35 representing actual events either in Korea Vietnam or Desert Storm
soooo after a little research l decided to make a ship and my choice went to USS YORKTOWN CV5
I decided to represent the battle of Coral Sea... and the moment when Yorktown sealed back to Pearl Harbor....so i' consulting here to find inspiration and information.
Have a nice evening
Greg
I finally managed to enter the forum ( THANK YOU OWNER)..
I will introduce myself.
My name is Gregory l live in Belgium I won't consider myself an expert but i really enjoy making models and dioramas
recently l made dioramas in scale 1/35 representing actual events either in Korea Vietnam or Desert Storm
soooo after a little research l decided to make a ship and my choice went to USS YORKTOWN CV5
I decided to represent the battle of Coral Sea... and the moment when Yorktown sealed back to Pearl Harbor....so i' consulting here to find inspiration and information.
Have a nice evening
Greg
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Greetings Greg!TF17Greg wrote:the moment when Yorktown sealed back to Pearl Harbor....so i' consulting here to find inspiration and information.
Do you have any specific desires about "the moment?" Are you looking for Yorktown in the channel or maybe with a PT boat escort (such as this photo (Navsource) of her sister ship Hornet)?
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WOW that is very interesting l might put them in the diorama... thank you
what l was looking for was more.
1. how the planes were parked during the assessment of damage and the fire in the lower decks?
2. the leak of oil from port?
3. how extensive was the damage on the deck and on the front starboard (front guns)?
4. the bomb that hit the deck was there damage on the island and on the guns?
there you if anybody has pictures or comments on that i would really appriciate
Greg
what l was looking for was more.
1. how the planes were parked during the assessment of damage and the fire in the lower decks?
2. the leak of oil from port?
3. how extensive was the damage on the deck and on the front starboard (front guns)?
4. the bomb that hit the deck was there damage on the island and on the guns?
there you if anybody has pictures or comments on that i would really appriciate
Greg
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Here's one for you Yorktown fans. Never seen anything about this style of deck marking, at first I thought it was Yorktown CV-10 mixed in, but the marking of the planes confirm it is early 42. Notice the "X" across the midships elevator.
This is a grab of this video, the url say's Hornet but the description claims Yorktown at Midway. The layout of the 1.1 guns and the island lead me to believe it is the Yorktown CV-5 but sometime in early 42, possibly at Coral Sea but not Midway based on aircraft markings.
USS Yorktown AA and Air Ops
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This is a grab of this video, the url say's Hornet but the description claims Yorktown at Midway. The layout of the 1.1 guns and the island lead me to believe it is the Yorktown CV-5 but sometime in early 42, possibly at Coral Sea but not Midway based on aircraft markings.
USS Yorktown AA and Air Ops
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Matt -taskforce48 wrote:Here's one for you Yorktown fans. Never seen anything about this style of deck marking, at first I thought it was Yorktown CV-10 mixed in, but the marking of the planes confirm it is early 42. Notice the "X" across the midships elevator.
This is a grab of this video, the url say's Hornet but the description claims Yorktown at Midway. The layout of the 1.1 guns and the island lead me to believe it is the Yorktown CV-5 but sometime in early 42, possibly at Coral Sea but not Midway based on aircraft markings.
USS Yorktown AA and Air Ops
Matt
You are right, this is not Midway. Could be YORKTOWN (Coral Sea?) or ENTERPRISE. But a number of the aircraft have the Red / White rudder stripes that were gone before Midway.
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I haven't looked closely yet, but judging by the fabric canopy covers, I'd say its Enterprise. Halsey was obsessed with covering canopy glare while birds were on deck
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Jeff Sharp
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Here is another look at the red X
https://www.gettyimages.com/videos/mr_0 ... st#license
https://www.gettyimages.com/videos/mr_0 ... st#license
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They did indeed. Check out the Booklet of General Plans for CV-5. They show 10 of them in the overhead view.DavidP wrote:did the Yorktown class have aircraft outriggers as shown in that link?
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I agree with Devin and that this is a sure bet this is the Enterprise early '42. These dashes with the numbers are consistent with the Enterprises's deck markings of the period. Although we now know the Yorktown had dash markings, these are not consistent with the few photos we have of them.
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