Calling all IJN Tone (利根) & Chikuma (筑摩) fans

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To backdate the kit, it is mostly a matter of changing or reducing the number of AA mounts, particularly on the quarterdeck. Also, Tone in late 1944 does not carry a Type 13 radar on her mainmast.

You can compare your kit instructions https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10133275 to those of the 1944 kit: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10098695

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@ Dan,

many thanks for your help, and for the link which is very helpful.

Greetings
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Hi all,

does anyone know a source for a plan set of TONE, 1/200th or 1/100th scale, please?

TIA,

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It's been a while, but I believe Miyukiai is still in business. I certainly hope so: http://www2.odn.ne.jp/miyukikai/
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Dan K wrote:It's been a while, but I believe Miyukiai is still in business. I certainly hope so: http://www2.odn.ne.jp/miyukikai/
Hi Dan,

thanks. I emailed Miyukiai san yesterday. I hope to hear from him this week.

Bye :wave_1:
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Got a reply....

"Sorry to say, All Plan are unavailable .

All plan were damaged by the rainwater of typhoon"

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:faint: I hope not the originals..... otherwise we need to start a small project and start sending him copies of his plans...
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EJFoeth wrote::faint: I hope not the originals..... otherwise we need to start a small project and start sending him copies of his plans...
Hi,
to me ist seems that his originals were damaged. That�s a loss! :-(
I asked him if the modeling community could help him. will post when he answers.

Would anyone be willing to sell some TONE plans in 1/200 or 1/100 scale?

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Sadly, I don't have a set for Tone or Chikuma.


If you haven't already checked out the Miyukikai website, there are some very interesting 3DCG renderings of several ships, including Tone. The Agano class renderings are as recent as January, 2020:

http://www2.odn.ne.jp/miyukikai/newpage6.htm
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miyukikai_tone.jpg
I have Miyukikai #144 Tone 1944 at 1:100 in my collection from when I thought I would be building something else after Hood...

Miyukikai removed his prices from his website, but from webarchives I see the latest price for this one was 60EUR, so 70EUR including postage? Includes hazard pay to go to the post office....
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EJFoeth wrote:
miyukikai_tone.jpg
I have Miyukikai #144 Tone 1944 at 1:100 in my collection from when I thought I would be building something else after Hood...

Miyukikai removed his prices from his website, but from webarchives I see the latest price for this one was 60EUR, so 70EUR including postage? Includes hazard pay to go to the post office....
Hi,

thanks for checking your archives. I would buy it :thumbs_up_1: If you like you can wait with the shipping when you feel more comfortable with the situation due to corona. :smallsmile:
Payment via PayPal? I send you a PM with my details.

The drawing doesn�t seem to include cross sections or stations of the hull?

Bye,
Bernd.

UPDATE: The stations are in the lower right corner ... :thumbs_up_1:
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Hi all,

if anyone has some literature on the Tone class to sell please contact me.

Thanks in advance :smallsmile:

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J. Soca wrote:Thanks for that terrific shot Dan :thumbs_up_1: here is some progress.. Chuck i want to thank you one more time for telling me how you did your blast bags all came out better than i was expecting.
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Hi all,

wondering of the construction of Tone�s main battery. Did they have spaced armour plating? The pattern on the side plates... is this stiffening or reinforcements, please?

TIA :wave_1:
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All the turrets had metal sheet lagging over the armor to serve as a shield against heat/sun/weathering. The sides had about 65mm air space between the armor and the side plating, the turret tops had about 85mm spacing, which is why you see all those horizontal vent holes along the top of the turret, to let the air flow through.

The ribbing on the outside of the turret are stiffeners or fasteners; I'm actually not sure. They are much smaller than most scale depictions, 20mm wide by 5mm high, which makes me think they are fasteners. Seems too thin to be a stiffener.

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Dan K wrote:All the turrets had metal sheet lagging over the armor to serve as a shield against heat/sun/weathering. The sides had about 65mm air space between the armor and the side plating, the turret tops had about 85mm spacing, which is why you see all those horizontal vent holes along the top of the turret, to let the air flow through.

The ribbing on the outside of the turret are stiffeners or fasteners; I'm actually not sure. They are much smaller than most scale depictions, 20mm wide by 5mm high, which makes me think they are fasteners. Seems too thin to be a stiffener.

HTH.
Hi Dan,

thanks for the info :thumbs_up_1:

Have a nice weekend!

Best wishes
Bernd.
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Hello to all you Tone-class fans.

I am a modeller from Russia. My best friend has got 2 Tamiya 1/350 kits, IJN Tone and IJN Chikuma, and is now trying to figure out what can he make of them. He asked me to post the following questions here: 1) How similar is 1939 Chikuma kit to historical 1939 IJN Tone and what needs to be done to convert the former into the latter? 2) Can the 1944 Tone kit be built into 1944 Chikuma and what needs to be rebuilt/changed for that?

Thanks in advance for your answers.
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The two sisters were remarkably identical. Pre-war, the only readily visible difference was the location of a 2kw lamp high up on the foremast (first 2 photos).

AFAIK, the only difference in their 1944 fit was the location of some AA (3rd photo).
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It seems like every model manufacturer shows different arrangements of what parts of the decks are steel and which are linoleum. After reading through this topic on page 12, I am still not sure. I hope you can clarify this? Perhaps one of the model companies has it right or a link to a model or drawing? Any help would be appreciated.
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The decks are covered with linoleum, though Mucho is certain that there is an outer strip of treaded metal on the boat deck. This would be aft of the aftmost twin 12.7cm mounts, though I'm not sure how far aft these would go. Possibly aft to the start of the aircraft trolley rails.

No mfg. has this specific layout.
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Once again, thank you for sharing your extensive knowledge! :thumbs_up_1:
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