Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
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Re: Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
Agreed. Just the right amount.
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Re: Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
Great work!
Both detailing and painting looks very fine! I love the weathering!
Are you planning to add some weathering to the decks too? It doesn't need to be as much as on the 5th photograph in your first post of course, but they could use a little bit of dirt and wear at least?
Both detailing and painting looks very fine! I love the weathering!
Are you planning to add some weathering to the decks too? It doesn't need to be as much as on the 5th photograph in your first post of course, but they could use a little bit of dirt and wear at least?
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Re: Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
Good morning all,
Attached is the latest breakthrough in mounting the KIROV Class. The assembly and painting of the ship are complete.
I still have to do the service boats, the aerials and the helicopters. I'm going to put two. One in the hangar and the other on the rear shelf.
I abandoned the idea of making a diorama with the two ships. The interest of such a diorama would be to make the crane. But I gave up making the crane, because if I ever had a problem on the crane after finishing the diorama. Repair would have been impossible.
In addition it has been so long that I have been on this diorama, I no longer have the courage to do the dock. So I'm going to do the ships in separate showcases.













I will now complete the Slava class.
Friendly.
Alain.
Attached is the latest breakthrough in mounting the KIROV Class. The assembly and painting of the ship are complete.
I still have to do the service boats, the aerials and the helicopters. I'm going to put two. One in the hangar and the other on the rear shelf.
I abandoned the idea of making a diorama with the two ships. The interest of such a diorama would be to make the crane. But I gave up making the crane, because if I ever had a problem on the crane after finishing the diorama. Repair would have been impossible.
In addition it has been so long that I have been on this diorama, I no longer have the courage to do the dock. So I'm going to do the ships in separate showcases.













I will now complete the Slava class.
Friendly.
Alain.
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Re: Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
Most impressive! Patience does pay off.
I've built a few Soviet ships, to a lesser degree of detail than this, and had never noticed in the photos that the brick deck color goes slightly up the sides of the superstructure.
JoePo
I've built a few Soviet ships, to a lesser degree of detail than this, and had never noticed in the photos that the brick deck color goes slightly up the sides of the superstructure.
JoePo
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Re: Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
Good morning all,
The latest breakthrough on MOSKVA. The assembly and painting are almost finished. On the paint apart from the hull which still requires a few touches here and there it suits me perfectly.
For rust in addition to sienna, I also used ABT070 Dark Rust from 502 Abteilung. It is darker from the first and has a look that looks good.
To have a greater variety of colors in terms of rust, mix the previous colors with Amarillo Ocher. The proportions varied depending on the desired effects.













Good day to all of you.
Friendly.
Alain.
The latest breakthrough on MOSKVA. The assembly and painting are almost finished. On the paint apart from the hull which still requires a few touches here and there it suits me perfectly.
For rust in addition to sienna, I also used ABT070 Dark Rust from 502 Abteilung. It is darker from the first and has a look that looks good.
To have a greater variety of colors in terms of rust, mix the previous colors with Amarillo Ocher. The proportions varied depending on the desired effects.













Good day to all of you.
Friendly.
Alain.
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Re: Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
Excellent PE work here, esp the radars, RDF and other antennae. The finishing is subtle and thus very realistic. Lots to admire in every photo. 
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Re: Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
Real master pieces.... well done
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Re: Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
Hello everyone.
I decided to make the crane on the quay in 3D printing. So I started in the Fusion 360 tutorials and after 10 days of practice I come to present the advances in crane design. In one week I find that I have progressed quite a bit.
The same work in Photo-cutting would have taken me 2 intensive months.
I still have a lot of work on the details of the cabin and engine compartment assembly and also to draw the counterweight and the boom elevation systems. But the bulk of the work is there.



But hey, now remains to see the result once printed. I have trouble realizing the visual rendering and the volumes on the screen. Nothing beats the result before the eyes.
In any case the volumes and dimensions of the crane are respected. The previous one deals only with details such as ribs and other thicknesses on the body of the parts.
Now I would like the parts to be defined, save them in different files in order to continue the detail drawings by single part. But I haven't found the solution yet. I will have to immerse myself in the book Fusion 360 and the video tutorials.
Good luck to all of you.
Best regards.
Alain.
I decided to make the crane on the quay in 3D printing. So I started in the Fusion 360 tutorials and after 10 days of practice I come to present the advances in crane design. In one week I find that I have progressed quite a bit.
The same work in Photo-cutting would have taken me 2 intensive months.
I still have a lot of work on the details of the cabin and engine compartment assembly and also to draw the counterweight and the boom elevation systems. But the bulk of the work is there.



But hey, now remains to see the result once printed. I have trouble realizing the visual rendering and the volumes on the screen. Nothing beats the result before the eyes.
In any case the volumes and dimensions of the crane are respected. The previous one deals only with details such as ribs and other thicknesses on the body of the parts.
Now I would like the parts to be defined, save them in different files in order to continue the detail drawings by single part. But I haven't found the solution yet. I will have to immerse myself in the book Fusion 360 and the video tutorials.
Good luck to all of you.
Best regards.
Alain.
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Re: Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
Hello everyone,
Here, I finished the design of the crane. There are still details that I have to do but it's almost nothing. For this, I will save the components in dedicated files and finalize the parts.






I think there will be changes. Currently I do not have a repository on the appearance of volumes and what it is possible to print as a level of details.
As much with the photo cutout I know the aspect that the pieces will have set in volume and painted. There with 3D printing I discover.
Once the finishes are finished. For printing, I will ask for quotes on sites dedicated to this activity. Depending on the results I would see if it is more interesting to buy a printer or outsource.
What causes me problem in the purchase of a printer. This is the use I would have of it and the inconvenience induced by the odors of the resin and of the cleaning products for the parts (isopropyl alcohol, etc.).
In addition, I will start drawing the photo cutout which will detail this crane.
The rest soon.
Best regards.
Alain.
Here, I finished the design of the crane. There are still details that I have to do but it's almost nothing. For this, I will save the components in dedicated files and finalize the parts.






I think there will be changes. Currently I do not have a repository on the appearance of volumes and what it is possible to print as a level of details.
As much with the photo cutout I know the aspect that the pieces will have set in volume and painted. There with 3D printing I discover.
Once the finishes are finished. For printing, I will ask for quotes on sites dedicated to this activity. Depending on the results I would see if it is more interesting to buy a printer or outsource.
What causes me problem in the purchase of a printer. This is the use I would have of it and the inconvenience induced by the odors of the resin and of the cleaning products for the parts (isopropyl alcohol, etc.).
In addition, I will start drawing the photo cutout which will detail this crane.
The rest soon.
Best regards.
Alain.
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Re: Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
Fantastic work......congrats. 

Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199.
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Re: Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
Good morning to all of you,
I printed the crane elements using a Photons S printer and green resin. This resin prints details much better than the grey resin.
The biggest problem is the adjustments. I'm used to drawing 1/100 to do the Photo-cutting, as this practice is mandatory if the PE parts are to fit properly.
With the 3D printing of the Photons, you have to reason in mm instead. During the design I had planned 0.2 to 0.3 mm gaps and I thought I would be wide. Big mistake. On the description of the printer, it is indicated tolerances of 0.2 on the X and Y axes. So on two sides it's 0.4 and we have to take a big security so we arrived not far from the millimeter.
I finally printed the crane elements completely and after a lot of effort I arrived at the result visible on the following pictures. I think it's not too bad.
I have drawn a photo cutout board to detail the crane. I'm quite confident about the final result. And above all, there will be a crane on the diorama.






I haven't finalized the crane position on the final diorama yet. I'll wait to finish the dock and the other elements before making a decision.
I have subcontracted the printing of the final crane to a FRENCH craftsman who has professional printers. I think I will adopt and generalize this practice for all the relatively delicate or imposing pieces I will make in the future.
Friendly.
Alain.
I printed the crane elements using a Photons S printer and green resin. This resin prints details much better than the grey resin.
The biggest problem is the adjustments. I'm used to drawing 1/100 to do the Photo-cutting, as this practice is mandatory if the PE parts are to fit properly.
With the 3D printing of the Photons, you have to reason in mm instead. During the design I had planned 0.2 to 0.3 mm gaps and I thought I would be wide. Big mistake. On the description of the printer, it is indicated tolerances of 0.2 on the X and Y axes. So on two sides it's 0.4 and we have to take a big security so we arrived not far from the millimeter.
I finally printed the crane elements completely and after a lot of effort I arrived at the result visible on the following pictures. I think it's not too bad.
I have drawn a photo cutout board to detail the crane. I'm quite confident about the final result. And above all, there will be a crane on the diorama.






I haven't finalized the crane position on the final diorama yet. I'll wait to finish the dock and the other elements before making a decision.
I have subcontracted the printing of the final crane to a FRENCH craftsman who has professional printers. I think I will adopt and generalize this practice for all the relatively delicate or imposing pieces I will make in the future.
Friendly.
Alain.
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Re: Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
Fantastique Alain!!!
The crane looks great! And I'm very happy to see that this project will turn into a diorama in the end...
The crane looks great! And I'm very happy to see that this project will turn into a diorama in the end...
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Re: Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
Good morning to all of you,
I finished assembling the cranes. I hesitated for a long time whether I should paint them before assembling them or do the opposite. But it's so fragile that I preferred to do the assembly before painting.










Plus, I did a lot of research to pick the right shade of crane. On the pictures of the dock we're interested in for this diorama. The crane is red, close to the basic rust color, with part of the engine/cab assembly in yellow.
This version does not allow to make a lot of rust and dirt. So I'm going to do it with the tints of the following picture.

With the lacquer technique it should not look too bad.
I'm moving slowly towards the end of this diorama.
Friendly.
Alain.
I finished assembling the cranes. I hesitated for a long time whether I should paint them before assembling them or do the opposite. But it's so fragile that I preferred to do the assembly before painting.










Plus, I did a lot of research to pick the right shade of crane. On the pictures of the dock we're interested in for this diorama. The crane is red, close to the basic rust color, with part of the engine/cab assembly in yellow.
This version does not allow to make a lot of rust and dirt. So I'm going to do it with the tints of the following picture.

With the lacquer technique it should not look too bad.
I'm moving slowly towards the end of this diorama.
Friendly.
Alain.
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Re: Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
That looks fantastic Alain!
Yes, hairspray technique would give a good base for that heavy paint chipping.
Yes, hairspray technique would give a good base for that heavy paint chipping.
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Re: Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
First of all excellent Job.NOVA73 wrote:
The crane is not too complicated and I think to do it. I need to find pictures of her base and what she's riding on. On rail, on wheel with tire, etc.
Alain.
And about the cranes. Most sea port cranes run on rails.
You already got a picture of it on your first post
You can see one of the rails along the ship. On the right corner it's a crane wheel over the rail. On the left corner there is also a crane.
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Re: Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
Hello to all of you,
I just finished the basic painting of the cranes. You're going to tell me that for having chosen such colorful colors, I've abused the booze a bit. But no, the Russians like to put color on their docks.
Below are a few pictures (found on the Yandex browser) that I used as inspiration.












On my cranes, I did the lacquer technique. On my previous projects I have used this technique several times using either hairspray or AK Worn Effects without any problems.
For the cranes I used the product from AMO MIG and there big problems. You have to put a lot of water, use tweezers to make multiple scratches to get the paint that goes away in big patches. In short, product to be avoided and put back the bottle of lacquer of the trade.
The next steps, filters, juices and aging will strongly reduce the clicking aspect of the paint. It is the same for the dock.






The sea is not finished, like the rest of the diorama. But I advance and I reach the end.
Friendly.
Alain.
I just finished the basic painting of the cranes. You're going to tell me that for having chosen such colorful colors, I've abused the booze a bit. But no, the Russians like to put color on their docks.
Below are a few pictures (found on the Yandex browser) that I used as inspiration.












On my cranes, I did the lacquer technique. On my previous projects I have used this technique several times using either hairspray or AK Worn Effects without any problems.
For the cranes I used the product from AMO MIG and there big problems. You have to put a lot of water, use tweezers to make multiple scratches to get the paint that goes away in big patches. In short, product to be avoided and put back the bottle of lacquer of the trade.
The next steps, filters, juices and aging will strongly reduce the clicking aspect of the paint. It is the same for the dock.






The sea is not finished, like the rest of the diorama. But I advance and I reach the end.
Friendly.
Alain.
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Re: Diorama Class KIROV et Class SLAVA au 1/350
Outstanding!
Martin
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Ship Model Gallery