SS Nomadic, Titanic's Little Sister - 1/200 - 3D (Design)

[Iceman 29]

I finished the funnel, I changed the size of the steam pipe that feeds the whistle, it printed, but it's really too thin, it warps, the limits of the resin.

The rest is perfect, we can see the rivets very well, pictures tomorrow.

I attacked the bridge, according to two photos from the book on the Nomadic, there were two Chadburn engines, one on the port side and the other on the starboard side, more practical for docking maneuvers.

The problem is that this was not at all the model (they were white, not common as a model) presented at the moment in Belfast on the restored ship... I'll see if it's worth redesigning, it's really small.





One of the Chadburns is clearly visible on the starboard side.

[Fliger747]

Pascal:

What designed diameter (for printing) was the steam line to the whistle? I have had some experience with saggy lines (grab rails, ladders etc) firming and straightening when dry and cured? Just curious as to how small you have been able to "get away with".

Cheers: Tom

[Iceman 29]

Have increased diameter to 0.3 mm. Tom. It prints at 0.2, but it's not strong enough to stay upright. It�s a problem of resin.

Impression of the funnel and its accessories, it is composed of 4 pieces. The complete drawing is composed of more than 300 pieces.







The original machine order transmitter of the Nomadic, it is a JW RAY & C�, like on the Titanic, it is very special with its central dial of report of the acknowledgement of the machine orders, on the other hand they are painted in white because they are outside, probably easier to maintain and waterproof.



Another model of the same brand but which looks similar. It will serve me as a model.






One of the two port (red), the upper one, which is used in normal operation, there is an emergency lantern underneath in case of failure.



A compass, I will use it as a model, this one is dated from the 1900s.





Drawing of the navigation lights, the emergency lanterns are still missing.

Rivets and reinforcements of the bridge bulwarks.

I started to draw the main deck layout, it's a draft.

[Fliger747]

Interesting Iron "Navigators Balls" used on the binnacle to compensate the compass. Ours were painted black, civilian applications allow more leeway with such items. Brass to be polished! You ladder and supports came out well and a lot of work placing the plethora of rivets!

Cheers: Tom

[Iceman 29]

Yes Tom! Riveting, riveting!



Fortunately, Fusion 360 program is very well equipped to replicate rivet patterns of all kinds.

Moving in has progressed well yesterday and today. The staircases and their cages are designed.

There is still the floor to be laid, the clear tracks, the 19.3 foot lifeboats, the davits that go with them, the handrails, the handrails. And I must necessarily forget some of them...

It is indeed a telegraph for the rudder angle of the emergency helm which is on the afterdeck and on the bridge. So I added it. �

On the plans the portholes are lower than the door portholes, it's a bit special, but that's the way it is...















I worked on the specific handrails of the double staircase era only today. A lot of work.

[JIM BAUMANN]

very impressive-- a lot of work and study!



JIM B

[Fliger747]

Was the interior designed for seating? For example on aircraft the "portholes" are at a level for seated individuals whereas the ones placed in the doors are placed higher to allow the door operator to easily see what is on the other side without bending over.

Progress is continuing nicely!

Cheers: Tom

[Iceman 29]

Tks, Jim, Tom.

Fitting the upper deck ventilation ducts and aft deck supports.

A little overview.



Today to change my mind about the Boring handrails, design of the Nomadic's lifeboats, they are 19.6 feet or 5m88, it's not big, they could hold 28 people.

They are quite different from the Titanic's in shape and size, so I couldn't use the same design as the Olympic class.

Luckily this profile picture helped me to design something that was pretty credible.�

Of course it's not finished yet, there are still some modifications to be made on some winks.

[Iceman 29]

I've made good progress with the canoe, but there's still work to be done.

























It ends. I still have the clinker reinforcements to put on.

I'm now going to tackle the different identification plates screwed on the hull.

Only the boat N�2 survived, it has been consolidated and is on display on its trailer across the country.

Both were recovered by the museum of Cherbourg at one time and were hanging out on the banks of the Seine in Paris. But the N�1 in very bad condition was later burned in Cherbourg, deemed unrecoverable, unfortunately.

The N�2 was recovered by the Nomadic foundation, but it was in a bad condition in Cherbourg (see pictures), stored outside... and partly restored for 15000 euros.



























Setting up of channels along the borders today.

They allow shipwrecked people to hold on to the canoe and try to get on board. They are also used if the canoe is submerged or overturned, in which case it serves as a floating device, which is better than nothing.

[Iceman 29]

2 plates made today, plus a few modifications, there are still 3 to draw ...

The clinker reinforcements are in place.

[Fliger747]

Reminds me of Joshua Slocum's restoration of the "Spray". One original plank is enough. A lot like "data plate restoration" of an aircraft. My Supercub is mostly one of those.

[Iceman 29]

Nice plane, the CUB!

Joshua is the name of the french sailing man Bernard Moitessier :

Joshua is the ketch of sailor Bernard Moitessier, built in 1962 at the Meta shipyard, with whom he participated in the Golden Globe Challenge and circumnavigated the world.

History

Mythical red ketch, behind which the silhouette of Bernard Moitessier, a great writer of the sea and the first man to have circumnavigated the globe's seas, solo and non-stop, in his wake. This 12-meter steel sailboat was named Joshua in homage to the famous sailor Joshua Slocum.



On board, Bernard Moitessier took part in 1968 in the first edition of the Golden Globe, the first non-stop round-the-world race. The man and the boat went straight into legend: after passing the Capes of Good Hope, Lewin and Horn, Moitessier, well ahead of all the competitors, decided to give up the race and change course.

I continue non-stop towards the Pacific islands because I am happy at sea and perhaps also so as not to lose my soul.

Adventures and voyages follow one another until that day in 1982 when Joshua, caught in a cyclone, is thrown ashore. Bernard Moitessier, whom other horizons call, then donated his companion to two young Americans who restored him. In 1989, the editor of Voiles et Voiliers, Emmanuel de Toma, contacted Patrick Schnepp, then director of the Maritime Museum of La Rochelle, and told him that Joshua had been found in the United States. He suggested that he bring this mythical ketch back to La Rochelle. On September 14, 1990, Joshua embarked on a cargo ship in Seattle and made a triumphant entry into the Grand Pavois de La Rochelle, Fracne, with Bernard Moitessier at the helm.

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... s%2Fjoshua

It's almost over.

I made the drawing so that I will be able to continue later the detailing of the inside of the lifeboat, because it's a full scale model, it's a beautiful lifeboat, a 1/35 printing is possible later. A bit like the wooden canoe of the Titanic from Artesiana.

For the Nomadic's lifeboat it would be 17 cm long at 1/35.

https://www.scalemates.com/fr/kits/arte ... t--1286097

[JIM BAUMANN]

Good evening Iceman

very very beautiful works-- actually printing the thing to build a non-virtual model seems almost

errr...? superfluous?

anyhow;-- my Business-- JB YACHT SERVICES ....
manufactures canvas boat covers-- ranging from super-yachts--sail and motor

down to some very very mundane small boats.( some really tatty ones too! )

Our covers are well known for being beautifully taut and setting perfectly ( no creases in canvas or windows)

To achieve tension in canvas -- using ties or lacing--requires the tensioning media ( ie rope/strap/) to be tight !

absolutely THE ONLY flaw I have ascertained so far in any of your very excellent works....( and ist a minor flaw!)

is that the beautiful taut canvas on the boat in your render ...
would not be able to be -in my opinion-- achieved with 'slack' lacing line....

I have superimposed on your image posted below ---how I think the tensioned lacing line should look.

as a secondary thought-- ....

unlacing a cover like that via pulling rope through eyes is a tedious and quite a slow task,
and not on that should be undertaken if the boat was was to be launched in an emergency

I do wonder if the lacing eyes drawn -should not actually be hooks--so that the line can be slipped andt he cover pulled off quickly

probably immaterial ( haha ! ) in a 1/200 scale model-- but just a thought for the visual render...?

I am following this thread with great interest and admire the research and interpretation of a fuzzy image to a credible conclusion

Bravo !

JIM Baumann

and one of mine --all over cover on a Fairey Super-swordsman

and an example of tensioned line

[Iceman 29]

Great job, Jim! Great company!

Thanks for the comment, actually at 1/200 we won't see much.

But I'll follow your advice when I switch the Nomadic to 1/100 and maybe the lifeboat alone to 1/35, although it might be without the canvas.

I don't know if there were bungee cords at the time, it prevents the rope from coming off the hook (especially because of the strong wind)...

It will be more credible, because it's actually hooks and not rings.

I had 4 boats on scale 1, the last one was an old Regal 32 feet that I had restored ( saved...) myself.

[Iceman 29]

First impressions this morning, rather good.

[Iceman 29]

I had the "Davits" exactly the "Welin quadran Davit" to draw, the famous ingenious davits, a type also present on the Titanic. �:D

There are singles and doubles, the double allows to put two boats in the water one by one side by side like some stations on the Titanic.

Single:



Double:











Simple:



Double:







That's where I am this evening with the davits, I still have pulleys to draw for the hoists. I've simplified the davits, well not too much...

I've got the cradles to rework a bit. The position of the lifeboat in relation to the davits needs to be reviewed.

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[Iceman 29]

Small length adaptation of the davit arms to the Nomadic, I increased their length by 7 mm.

On the Nomadic, the upper deck is really recessed and there is also on the planking, the hull protrusion that serves as a defense. So they are very long.

I will now be able to print them as well as the supports for the lifeboats.





You can see that on the Traffic which is in the background it is the same configuration of davits.

[JIM BAUMANN]

WoW !

when I first read that you were increasing the length I thought... surely not...?!

BUT--the postcard really does show that you are 100% corrcet--
the davit arm look like a plant growing towads the light!!

JB

[Iceman 29]

Indeed Jim, the davits are very far away from the bulkwark.

[Iceman 29]

The day's advances, printing of the Welin davits. It came out very well, even the crank is printed at 1/200, but also at 1/350 dimensioned for 27 feet lifeboat instead of 19 feet for the 1/200.

The 1/350 is a test for an English friend who needs it for his SS Fushimi Maru 1/350 in scratch. There was this davit system on these Japanese merchant ships.

At the top the davits on the 1/200 and 19 foot lifeboat, at the bottom the davits and 27 foot lifeboat on the 1/350.

I broke the crank on the right davit when the davit was unhooked.



Making more ventilation sleeves, that's it. Beginning of the rigging. It's starting to look like a ship.