Calling all Italian Zara, Pola, Gorizia & Fiume fans

[AdrianoMarelli]

Really inspiring work, Tom! I have the Pola kit and will be referring to yours for help frequently.

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Can anyone help with identifying the turret mottos of the various ships of the class? For example,

Zara's turret 4 had "TENACEMENTE" ("Tenaciously" in English) emblazoned on the sides.
Pola's turret 3 had "ARDISCO AD OGNI IMPRESA" ("I dare to every undertaking", or "Courage in every undertaking" in English)

Please help with any others.

I found that Fiume had motto Sic indeficienter virtus (thus with inexhaustible valor) derived from the city of Fiume's motto since 1659 � Indeficienter. On the photos � really quick searching � I see only one word on the 3rd turret. My best guess is that the word is Indeficienter



For Gorizia, there was no motto, I guess. In the prewar photos, there is definitely no motto on the starboard side. On the port side, I see only a fascia on the 3rd turret and a royal (?) crest on the 4th one before the war...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... review.jpg (too big to be posted)
...and nothing at all in the razzle-dazzle version.

[ModelMonkey]

Thank you very much, Adriano, that helps a lot.

One poster on Reddit claims that "Gorizia has a curious record with her motto "In Arduis Intrepida" - it appears and disappears throughout her career, ultimately for good by the time she receives her camouflage in 1942 - but generally it was found on her No.4 turret" (link below) but I haven't found much to confirm it and nothing that shows it on any turret.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WarshipPorn/co ... y_cruiser/

Another resource (go to page 517): http://dreadnoughtproject.org/friends/d ... 0TROMs.pdf

I wonder if perhaps Gorizia's motto did exist in raised letters on Turret 4 but was painted over and not visible in the photos we have available to us, or maybe once there but removed entirely.

[Chuck Bauer]

Greetings all,

I have a new question today...

On the mainmast there is a very large structure which has extensions off its sides. Does anybody know what this structure was called and what its purpose was?

T.I.A.
Chuck

[Chuck Bauer]

For those who may be interested, I have learned that the structure did not have its own name, it was simply considered part of the mainmast. It would be nice, though to know what was inside of it. If anybody knows, please advise.

TIA

Chuck
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

[Chuck Bauer]

Good morning again.



New question...

In Steve Wiper's book Warship Pictorials no. 23 on Italian Heavy Cruisers of World War II, there are two starboard side images of the Fiume in Venice. One of the photos is an enlargement of the overall view and shows the midships area.

He says the photo was taken sometime between 1937 and 1939. Does anybody have any specifics?

TIA,
Chuck

[Chuck Bauer]

Well, OK, I guess "circa 1938" will have to do for a date.



Now then, I have yet another question for you to ponder...

In several photos of the sterns of these vessels, you can see some square-shaped brackets that appear to be holding life rings. The brackets are attached to the sides of the hull. In most of them something round is inside but in a couple of photos they are empty. Any thoughts on this ?

[Seeadler290]

Well, OK, I guess "circa 1938" will have to do for a date.
Now then, I have yet another question for you to ponder...
In several photos of the sterns of these vessels, you can see some square-shaped brackets that appear to be holding life rings. The brackets are attached to the sides of the hull. In most of them something round is inside but in a couple of photos they are empty. Any thoughts on this ?

According to another source that I cannot currently lay my hands on, these photos were taken during one part of Mussolini's naval review for A.Hitler in 1938.