Calling all Kriegsmarine Prinz Eugen, Admiral Hipper & Blücher fans
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Mr. Church
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Re: Calling all Prinz Eugen/Admiral Hipper class fans
Looks like Heller are going to re-release their 1/400 Admiral Hipper / Prinz Eugen kit:
https://heller.fr/en/55083-starter-kit- ... ipshipping
https://heller.fr/en/55083-starter-kit- ... ipshipping
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rvuorenr
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Re: Calling all Prinz Eugen/Admiral Hipper class fans
Slow progress on my Prinz, this must be the most complicated funnel ever, so many details! I think there are two things Trumpeter didn't get quite right in the 1/350 modell:
1. the torpedo storage container is too long, I've indicated in the pics the correct lenght.
2. I noticed also that the vents on the bottom of the funnel are not identical on both sides, see the pictures.
I haven't seen any other notes on these and wanted to share for anyone else still building PE.
1. the torpedo storage container is too long, I've indicated in the pics the correct lenght.
2. I noticed also that the vents on the bottom of the funnel are not identical on both sides, see the pictures.
I haven't seen any other notes on these and wanted to share for anyone else still building PE.
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rvuorenr
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Re: Calling all Prinz Eugen/Admiral Hipper class fans
I think the aft rangefinder is not square as in the Trumpeters model, although in the original drawings it also seems to be square. Opinions?
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rvuorenr
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Re: Calling all Prinz Eugen/Admiral Hipper class fans
If you compare the distance from the mast (which sits in the middel) to the front / sides I think they're not equal.
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rvuorenr
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Re: Calling all Prinz Eugen/Admiral Hipper class fans
Working on the Arados and found out the hangar is very tight, either its too narrow or the plane is too wide. The tail barely fits, touhcing the ceilings and the wings have to be folded into too much upright postition to fit. Note that the wings don't fold from the back end of the wing and the flaps are down in this position, but even with these modifications a tight fit.
To make the Arado perfect I'm missing a swastika to the tail, any hints where to get?
To make the Arado perfect I'm missing a swastika to the tail, any hints where to get?
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AJohnson
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Kriegsmarine Battleship and Cruiser swastika ID markings
Dear KM Experts
Can you confirm the swastika ID markings on Admiral Hipper in 1940? Did it have one on the both the focsle and the stern? I can't find any confirmatory photos, but maybe this was the standard rule in 1940?
Thanks
Andrew
Can you confirm the swastika ID markings on Admiral Hipper in 1940? Did it have one on the both the focsle and the stern? I can't find any confirmatory photos, but maybe this was the standard rule in 1940?
Thanks
Andrew
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Re: Kriegsmarine Battleship and Cruiser swastika ID markings
Photo taken during the duel with HMS Glowworm, Apirl 1940
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/B3EH3F/admira ... B3EH3F.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/B3EH3F/admira ... B3EH3F.jpg
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AJohnson
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Re: Kriegsmarine Battleship and Cruiser swastika ID markings
Thanks very much Guys!
I fear I may have to portray my Hipper as somewhere through its painting cycle between January and April 1940
Andrew
I fear I may have to portray my Hipper as somewhere through its painting cycle between January and April 1940
Andrew
- David Gatt
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Re: Calling all Prinz Eugen/Admiral Hipper class fans
rvuorenr wrote:Working on the Arados and found out the hangar is very tight, either its too narrow or the plane is too wide. The tail barely fits, touhcing the ceilings and the wings have to be folded into too much upright postition to fit. Note that the wings don't fold from the back end of the wing and the flaps are down in this position, but even with these modifications a tight fit.
To make the Arado perfect I'm missing a swastika to the tail, any hints where to get?
The hanger space goes a deck lower. That way the aircraft fits fine.
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rvuorenr
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Re: Calling all Prinz Eugen/Admiral Hipper class fans
The challenge is width, not height, picture shows just test fit.David Gatt wrote:rvuorenr wrote:Working on the Arados and found out the hangar is very tight, either its too narrow or the plane is too wide. The tail barely fits, touhcing the ceilings and the wings have to be folded into too much upright postition to fit. Note that the wings don't fold from the back end of the wing and the flaps are down in this position, but even with these modifications a tight fit.
To make the Arado perfect I'm missing a swastika to the tail, any hints where to get?
The hanger space goes a deck lower. That way the aircraft fits fine.
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rvuorenr
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Re: Calling all Prinz Eugen/Admiral Hipper class fans
What are these tubes close to the catapult base, I can't find any pictures where I could see them. Very few photos of this area and the ones I've found seem to have something like life rafts or similar.
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Re: Calling all Prinz Eugen/Admiral Hipper class fans
The challenge is width, not height, picture shows just test fit.[/quote]
There is a possibility (large) that the aircraft is over scaled.
There is a possibility (large) that the aircraft is over scaled.
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Re: Calling all Prinz Eugen/Admiral Hipper class fans
Do we have good pictures or any close ups of the funnel on Admiral Hipper 1939 (flat funnel)?
I am wondering how the cage on the funnel looks etc. trying to rebuild the ship in 1939 fit and the funnel is puzzling a little on details in and around it. Appreciate any help!
I am wondering how the cage on the funnel looks etc. trying to rebuild the ship in 1939 fit and the funnel is puzzling a little on details in and around it. Appreciate any help!
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HobbyingSkogkatt
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1:350 Admiral Hipper (Trumpeter) conversion 1941 => 1945
Hi everyone,
I acquired a while ago this model kit then waited long for the corresponding Flyhawk set�s delivery.
After a period of uncertainty, I have decided to refit my Hipper into her 1945 version and, as a plain light grey livery does not interest me so much, with a fictional, self made camouflage scheme. However, there is little information and pictures of the ship during the last years of the war, although I found some through lengthy researches.
To refit Trumpeter�s 1941 Hipper, I have listed the following modifications:
-platforms with railings and ammo boxes on the B and C turrets (Can be reused from my Eugen kit, backdated from 1945 to 1941 so not needed there)
- 4cm Flak 28 AA guns, twin and quadruple 20mm guns: same as above, might need a few more twin 20mm mounts though
- different radar equipment (from Flyhawk�s German naval radar set)
-adding the battle-observer�s post atop of the radar office on the main rangefinder
-adding the radar office atop the aft rangefinder
Does anyone have an idea of what other changes I need to proceed?
Thanks
I acquired a while ago this model kit then waited long for the corresponding Flyhawk set�s delivery.
After a period of uncertainty, I have decided to refit my Hipper into her 1945 version and, as a plain light grey livery does not interest me so much, with a fictional, self made camouflage scheme. However, there is little information and pictures of the ship during the last years of the war, although I found some through lengthy researches.
To refit Trumpeter�s 1941 Hipper, I have listed the following modifications:
-platforms with railings and ammo boxes on the B and C turrets (Can be reused from my Eugen kit, backdated from 1945 to 1941 so not needed there)
- 4cm Flak 28 AA guns, twin and quadruple 20mm guns: same as above, might need a few more twin 20mm mounts though
- different radar equipment (from Flyhawk�s German naval radar set)
-adding the battle-observer�s post atop of the radar office on the main rangefinder
-adding the radar office atop the aft rangefinder
Does anyone have an idea of what other changes I need to proceed?
Thanks
Last edited by MartinJQuinn on Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:59 am, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Merged into CASF Adm Hipper class thread
Reason: Merged into CASF Adm Hipper class thread
- MartinJQuinn
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Re: Calling all Prinz Eugen/Admiral Hipper class fans
She actually had a very interesting camo at the very end. No need to create a fictional one, unless, of course, you want to.
https://ww2db.com/image.php?image_id=27133
http://www.bismarck-class.dk/admiral_hi ... _1945.html
https://ww2db.com/image.php?image_id=27133
http://www.bismarck-class.dk/admiral_hi ... _1945.html
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HobbyingSkogkatt
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Re: Calling all Prinz Eugen/Admiral Hipper class fans
Well, I do know about her May 1945 camouflage, but while it certainly is an interesting one, I am not so fond of it. Thank you nevertheless, there are one or two pictures on the website that I do not remember seeing before
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DougC
Re: Calling all Prinz Eugen/Admiral Hipper class fans
Are there any written reviews of Occre's 1/200 Prinz Eugen?
- Timmy C
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Re: Calling all Prinz Eugen/Admiral Hipper class fans
Here's a pretty comprehensive in-box look on MSW: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/32419- ... gen-occre/DougC wrote:Are there any written reviews of Occre's 1/200 Prinz Eugen?
There are also a few on YouTube if you find that to be an acceptable format.
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- Roberto
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Re: Calling all Prinz Eugen/Admiral Hipper class fans
David Gatt wrote:The challenge is width, not height, picture shows just test fit.
The Arado 196 wings were removed to fit in the hangar, there�s a very good photo circulating the web, just google Prinz Eugen hangar.�David Gatt� wrote:There is a possibility (large) that the aircraft is over scaled.
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81542
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Re: Calling all Prinz Eugen/Admiral Hipper class fans
Don't you mean folded back to the rear, Roberto?
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