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The Haguro mast is more tight with the leg spacing I take it? I like the result. How do you plan on covering up the holes in the PE deck for the mast legs?
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ch hoeltge wrote:Really great work :thumbs_up_1: .

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Thank you Christian!
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Angeliccypher wrote:The Haguro mast is more tight with the leg spacing I take it? I like the result. How do you plan on covering up the holes in the PE deck for the mast legs?
You are right Gabriel
My mast is more tight than necessary about 0.5...1 mm
Myoko's is more wider than necessary
I plan covering holes by drawn sprues. It's simple

For build mast I use Gakken scheme in 1/833 scale
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and Profile draw for Nachi 1944 in 1/200 scale
Nachi's mast is similar to Haguro's mast, but it have some little differences in height
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Superb work.
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Dan K wrote:Superb work.
Thank you Dan!
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Absolutely amazing work, especially the photo-etch work. may I ask what type of glue are you using ? :thumbs_up_1:
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This build continues to amaze me. Incredible work, Mr. Silver Ghost :-)
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linp1963 wrote:Absolutely amazing work, especially the photo-etch work. may I ask what type of glue are you using ? :thumbs_up_1:
Thank you!
I use very cheap super ca glue
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warspite63 wrote:This build continues to amaze me. Incredible work, Mr. Silver Ghost :-)
Thank you!

Complete main mast
But there are some bugs - crookedly installed top and railings at top
30 details
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start assemling keel blocks
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Likely you have thought of this, but I ran into this with my recent Nagara build and the keel blocks.

Test fit them on the bottom of the boats. Create a template for location and spacing with regular paper. It helps align them and make sure the boat does not sit funny.
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Angeliccypher wrote:Likely you have thought of this, but I ran into this with my recent Nagara build and the keel blocks.

Test fit them on the bottom of the boats. Create a template for location and spacing with regular paper. It helps align them and make sure the boat does not sit funny.
Gabriel, thank you for your comment!
I would test fit between keel blocks and motor boats and vesseles.

But now I find that I have Rainbow keel blocks, which are adapted for its resin cutters and motor boats

One interesting moment:
- Rainbow has 3 keel blocks per cutter
- Flyhawk has 4 keel blocks per cutter
- Nachi drawings in 1/100...1/200 scale from Profile have 3 keel blocks per cutter
- Myoko drawing in 1/350 from Gakken has 2 keel blocks per cutter
- Aoshima's cruisers in 1/350 scale have 2 keel blocks per cutter
- Hasegawa's cruisers in 1/700 scale have 2 keel blocks per cutter

Who is right?
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If you have access to Japanese Cruisers by Lactic and Wells that would be the source I would trust. Flyhawk has been known to make minor errors as well as Aoshima.

In absence if the above mentioned book I would trust gakken but would suggest wiser heads than mine on the subject.
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Nice job on the mast and is so much better than the original one!! looking forward to you painting this model!



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Angeliccypher wrote:If you have access to Japanese Cruisers by Lactic and Wells that would be the source I would trust. Flyhawk has been known to make minor errors as well as Aoshima.

In absence if the above mentioned book I would trust gakken but would suggest wiser heads than mine on the subject.
Gabriel, I looked at the pictures and the situation is:
- nose boats have 2 kiel blocks
- boats between funnels have 3 kiel blocks, because there we can see boat or motor launch
- motor launches and motor boats have 3 kiel blocks

Next fact is interesting - Ashigara and Haguro had only 3 boats and 2 motor boats and 3 motor launches
May be all 4 cruisers had only 3 boats. Gakken schemes confirm this fact
At this picture we can see 11m motor launch at Haguro's starboard in 1941
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At this picture we can see Ashigara in December 1940 with similar motor launch (but with out tent frame)
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Now, I need a third 11m Motor Launch.

Last weekend I finished Rainbow resin motor boats, motor launches and boats
Overall - 108 details
PE boat banks were larger than resin details
Each boat have only 3 paddles. But need 12 per boat!!!
Convert 10-paddle boats to 12-paddle boats - make new additional rowlock at each board
You can the difference between PE tent frames of Rainbow and Flyhawk.
Flyhawk's frame is wrong.
Rainbow's PE is more detailed, finer and better than Flyhawk's
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J. Soca wrote:Nice job on the mast and is so much better than the original one!! looking forward to you painting this model!

Jose
Thank you Jose!
My mast need some upgrade
I find interesting photo of Nachi's mast in late 1930s. Haguro in early 1942 had similar mast.
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Yesterday I bought 30th aftermarket detail set for this model
It was the additional set of Rainbow's resin 11m Motor launches.
And I assemble 3rd motor launch for Haguro
All on the cruiser will be 3 boats, 3 11m motor launches, 2 11m motor boats
Then I started to assemble Flyhawk PE davits
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It is interesting you mention Flyhawk messing up the frame. I found numerous problems with their set for the Nagara in 1/350 (mostly relating to the boats). had quite a bit of back and forth around it with Flyhawk. The found the feedback interesting and said they would look into it. Never heard back from them after that. For your amusment:
viewtopic.php?f=85&t=161354

Back on point. I am loving the work on the boats! How you do this in 1/700 is beyond me.
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Yesterday I bought 30th aftermarket detail set for this model
Man, talk about budget overruns. Better hope the accounting office is impressed by your excellent work.
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Dan K wrote:
Yesterday I bought 30th aftermarket detail set for this model
Man, talk about budget overruns. Better hope the accounting office is impressed by your excellent work.
Dan, I have unlimited budget
But I have time limit ((((
By September, the model must be ready
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Angeliccypher wrote:It is interesting you mention Flyhawk messing up the frame. I found numerous problems with their set for the Nagara in 1/350 (mostly relating to the boats). had quite a bit of back and forth around it with Flyhawk. The found the feedback interesting and said they would look into it. Never heard back from them after that. For your amusment:
viewtopic.php?f=85&t=161354

Back on point. I am loving the work on the boats! How you do this in 1/700 is beyond me.
Gabriel, I think that Flyhawk makes frame for 12m motor launch.
Or Rainbow make ... 10m motor launch. Resin parts can shrink

I measure the boat this evening and tell who is wrong
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