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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:21 pm
by DrPR
They are called "Pit Logs" in the US Navy - no idea why. Maybe someone else can clarify.
The retractable part was called the "sword." They were typically hydrofoil shaped to reduce drag - something like the cross section shape of a sword blade. They extended deep enough to get away from the surface layer (water dragged along with the ship due to friction) in order to get a more accurate speed measurement. They were retracted in shallow water for obvious reasons.
Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:45 pm
by carr
DrPR wrote:They are called "Pit Logs" in the US Navy - no idea why. Maybe someone else can clarify.
My understanding is that "pit" is short for pitometer which in turn is a modified form of pitot tube. A pitot tube being a pressure sensor used to measure speed such as is common on airplanes. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this.
Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:41 am
by 109
Thank you both, guys!
I checked my drawings again ... the cross section is circular in the drawing.
I think I will file a flat surface to the front end at the tip and add a borehole to it for the nozzle, what do you think?
It�s time for a coffee and a cinnamon bun made by my wife....

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:36 am
by 109
Hi,
I tried to find a solution of how the tip of the log might have looked - see attchment.
What do you think about it?
Bye!

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:53 am
by tms
Hello, greetings from Greece,
Never posted before, just watching the wonderful builts of the members and picking some ideas.
please check here, might be what you looking for:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitometer_log
I am also Bismarck fun, hope to built her model some day.
best regards
Christos
Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:45 pm
by 109
tms wrote:Hello, greetings from Greece,
Never posted before, just watching the wonderful builts of the members and picking some ideas.
please check here, might be what you looking for:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitometer_log
I am also Bismarck fun, hope to built her model some day.
best regards
Christos
Hi Chris! thanks a lot for that link!
have fun with your Bismarck!
Bye!

BB turbine cooling water outlet, seachest, BISMARCK, 1/100 s
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:32 am
by 109
Hi,
working on the seachest of the CENTER turbine cooling water outlet ...
Bye!

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:52 pm
by DrPR
Hey guys, I love this! I have been working on the seachests for my 1:96 Oklahoma City and was wondering if I was the only one trying to model the bottom of a hull accurately.
Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:31 pm
by 109
Hi Phil,
thanks! I really look forward to see your build!
The seachest is somewhat simplified as you won�t see much of it on the hull bottom and behind the grill. The sea chest above the bilge keel will receive more time for an accurate reconstruction.
The attached picture shows a more realistic shape of the sea chest - transition from rectangular to circular cross section.
Bye now,
Bernd.
PS: I did it again: this is not the BB turbine, its the middle turbine outlet!!

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:58 pm
by Dave Wooley
Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:38 pm
by 109
Hi Dave,
yes, will put it about 5" above a mirror - maybe with some LEDs for more light?!:D
I hope to see soon an update by Kiwimedic!
bye now!

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:42 pm
by 109
Hi,
that�s how they will lokk like when they�re finished. The PE parts are right in the making, hope to get them before christmas!
Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:24 pm
by 109
Hi,
I built the seachests for the cooling water outlet of BB and port turbines. Pictures show a first dry fitting of the sea boxes into the hull bottom.
Thanks to Ferdinand Sparenborg for his support!
Bye!

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:05 pm
by russclark
very superb detail work,your bismark is a true labour of love

.i would hazard a guess .but i doubt there is anouther hull built with as much underwater detail

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:32 am
by 109
Hi Russ,
thanks! Hull details are rarely seen, I guess a detailed hull is too sensitive for being damaged on a RC-model. It�s also hard to get the requiered info to do all the details. I enjoy details and my Bismarck will be a static model!
Bye now!

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:03 am
by JIM BAUMANN
>>>> my Bismarck will be a static model! <<<
REALLY pleased to hear it!!
JIm Baumann

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:04 am
by Capit�o Norbert
Nice nice progress
i will following

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:28 pm
by TCC
You can see one or 2 of these grills at the start of the film "Sink the Bismark. They show some news clips of her launch... but it looks like you already haave the info. The grill in the clip was a rectangle with rounded corners, as you've drawn. I just mention it FYI.
p.s regards the 'dock keels'. The plan for HMS LION (1910) depicts them. I've never known what they were... it's drawn as a keel that didn't grow to reach adulthood, if you follow.
I've never, ever seen the modelled before... ever!!!
Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:05 am
by 109
JIM BAUMANN wrote:>>>> my Bismarck will be a static model! <<<
REALLY pleased to hear it!!
JIm Baumann

No problem!
Bye!

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:07 am
by 109
TCC wrote:
You can see one or 2 of these grills at the start of the film "Sink the Bismark. They show some news clips of her launch... but it looks like you already haave the info. The grill in the clip was a rectangle with rounded corners, as you've drawn. I just mention it FYI.
p.s regards the 'dock keels'. The plan for HMS LION (1910) depicts them. I've never known what they were... it's drawn as a keel that didn't grow to reach adulthood, if you follow.
I've never, ever seen the modelled before... ever!!!
Hi,
thanks for the input! Di you have the LION plans? It would be nice to see the drawings of the hull ...
Bye!