Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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Capit�o Norbert wrote:very interesting pieces.
how do you pretend show these internal arrangments ? :wave_1: :thumbs_up_1:
With enough light you should be able to see very well into the sea box. There will be a grill in the opening, however. At least for a static model I wanted to recreate these inlets, especially as there is much debate on the outline of the openings in the hull. So, having a correct seabox penetrating thru the outer shell will end in the correct outline of the openings!

How is your build coming along??

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i imagine a great model with special effect..
very very good Bernd :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:
about my model
i have with time problem
so i think my build is a bit slowly as i would like be
the works on hull is becoming but many things needs to do. (pag. 27 have some pics of the hull stanchions) see there
i purchase from Sitek new screws and shafts i am waiting ansiouxly...
i have all material to do the hull now but here in my country is making a heat from hell
so this temperature is not good to work. the heat is great and sometimes is difficult to support
thanks for ask soon news of hull
wish me luck :wave_1: :smallsmile:
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Dave,

are there any infos and photos of Mr. Bidgood�s model availabe?

TIA,

Bernd.
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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Capit�o Norbert wrote:i imagine a great model with special effect..
very very good Bernd :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:
about my model
i have with time problem
so i think my build is a bit slowly as i would like be
the works on hull is becoming but many things needs to do. (pag. 27 have some pics of the hull stanchions) see there
i purchase from Sitek new screws and shafts i am waiting ansiouxly...
i have all material to do the hull now but here in my country is making a heat from hell
so this temperature is not good to work. the heat is great and sometimes is difficult to support
thanks for ask soon news of hull
wish me luck :wave_1: :smallsmile:
We had -12 �C last night, weekend temps will be higher and probably some rain. At least better for modeling unless you need to vent the modeling roon - then it get�s too cold...;-)

Bye!
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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Having nearlly finished making the hull for Varyag, I am even scared about making holes in her for the props, let alone all the "sea chests" :thinking: :thinking:


Wonderful work 109, looking forward to the next installment.

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Hi Andrew,

thanks! I follow your build, too. Great subject and modeling! :thumbs_up_1:

Have a nice weekend,

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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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Hi,

started to determine the position of the seabox in the hull ...

Bye now,

Bernd.
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Marking the upper and lower edge of the sea box (parallel waterlines)
Marking the upper and lower edge of the sea box (parallel waterlines)
Side view of the lower hull.
Side view of the lower hull.
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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Hi,

I am installing the cooling water inlet for the middle turbine right now. here are a few pictures. My solution is different from the scale modeling plans available.

Time for dinner...

Bernd.

PS: Thanks to all those who helped me on this item. :-)
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rear view
rear view
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rear-below view
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Side view
Overview - side
Overview - side
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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A few more pics ...

BYe! :wave_1:
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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very nice work on the thru hulls on bismark :thumbs_up_1: . modern ships still have seperate thru hulls for engine and turbine cooling ,but i belive most other things are taken from a central sea box,to cut down on the amont of holes in the hull.on the coast of british columbia all the new tugs and fishing boats are this way,less chance of a thru hull failing and sinking the boat.
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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Hi,

hmm.. I am not a naval architect, but I think making one very large sea box for all the needs makes no sense on a large ship as Bismarck, maybe on a tug it makes sense ... ?! On Bismarck you have 125 m to both end of the ship. :-)

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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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Very nice work 109 :thumbs_up_1:

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excellent work i like so much the dedication and care...
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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Hi Bernd!
The cooling water intakes for central turbine room was located at port or starboard side ? It seems that you have located those intakes between the water lines 1.4 m and 3.1 m and parallel to them. I saw in different drawings, not original drawings indeed, that the intakes are not parallel but somehow inclined. I really don't know why would inclined anyway. Could you please clarified the situation ?

I like very much your job in this particular point. In my 3D model it is a lot easier to do it by the way. Please update your Bismarck reconstruction as often as possible.

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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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Rafael wrote:Hi Bernd!
The cooling water intakes for central turbine room was located at port or starboard side ? It seems that you have located those intakes between the water lines 1.4 m and 3.1 m and parallel to them. I saw in different drawings, not original drawings indeed, that the intakes are not parallel but somehow inclined. I really don't know why would inclined anyway. Could you please clarified the situation ?

I like very much your job in this particular point. In my 3D model it is a lot easier to do it by the way. Please update your Bismarck reconstruction as often as possible.

Rafael
Hi,

good observation.

So far all available model plans are "wrong" in my opinion. The seachest was horizontal and not inclinded, so upper and lower edge is parallel to the keel; inner height of seachest according to my reconstruction is 1500 mm, 1500 mm above keel plate (I used 1 mm material for construction -> 14 mm and 31 mm above keel). the center turbine intake is starboard right behind the bilge keel.

Bye for now,

Bernd.
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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Hi,

I finally finshed the quest for the RAL 8013/Schiffsbodenfarbe III anti-fouling shade used on KM vessels.

I checked it against some other often used RAL-shades on KM-models. To my opinion RAL 8012 could be used as an substitute as it is readily available, no mixing needed. RAL 3009 could be used on smaller scale models as it is lighter in shade than 8012/8013. RAL 3011 is too red and I would not used it at all on KM vessels.

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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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Added the auxillary cooling water inlet to the hull ...

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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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cool pictures Bernd.
question: these colors are ready for use?
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Yes,

if you like I can send you an airbrush sample for you to get your shade right!

If so please send me your adress.

Bye! :wave_1:
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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109 wrote:Yes,

if you like I can send you an airbrush sample for you to get your shade right!

If so please send me your adress.

Bye! :wave_1:
i sent you one :wave_1: :thumbs_up_1: e-mail
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