STEREGUSHCHIY Project 20380 at 1:72 scale

[Dave Wooley]

Hello Dave nice hull very indeed..
i would like to ask you what dimensions have your workshop in meters.
and say you i start the buildings of my workshop finally
i purchase a new camera too.
well now i can start after some things my hull
all the best

Hi Norberto my workshop is very small , 3m x 1m 800 but quite comfortable to work in. Thanks for asking .
Dave Wooley

[Neptune]

There appear to be some more improvements in the class now. Here is a picture of the construction of Gremiyachiy, as you can see on the plate, it's called project 20385. If you look on Wiki, I know crappy source, you can see that they call the follow ships of Stereguchiy, so from the second one in the class on, project 20385. I think from Soobraztelniy on they were actually called 20382.
There is also the export variant which was sold to Algeria and apparently Indonesia, not sure what those will look like and what designation they officially have.

However they also name Gremyachiy as an evolution of these ships, with a very different weapons load. A pretty impressive ship, although nothing can be made out of the drawing of the Gremyachiy. In fact I'm pretty sure that Wiki as usual has messed up its figures again. Even for Stereguchiy they write the Uran as a VLS, which isn't true.
She does seem to have an even larger piece of deckhouse forward, coming really close the main gun, but that could be just perspective.

[Dave Wooley]

Hi Roel I understood that project 22350 was a different vessel to the Steregushchiy design but looking at the design features there is a clear link. By the way the running gear should arrive sometime this week, and then I can at least make some sort of start.
I have always thought that information on Wiki needs to cross referenced but then most technical information should not be taken as read.
Dave Wooley

[Neptune]

I think you're talking about a different ship, namely the Gorshkov.
Gremyachiy is project 20385, or better said: project 2038.5, while Stereguchiy is project 2038.0 and I guess Soobraztelniy or the export version would be 2038.1 or 2038.2.
In any case I've found this. The Gremyachiy class will be 115.1m long instead of Stereguchiy's 111.6m and have a displacement of 2,300t, which is about 200t more than Stereguhiy.
The biggest difference is aft and midship. The Uran is gone and the forward superstructure slightly stretched to close the gap (but not entirely) where Uran used to be. Aft, on both sides between the hangar and helo pad, there are two blocks for the Redut VLS, with 4 x 4 modules (so 8 VLS cells each side) for a SAM system. There is still some discussion on that, whether it will be the 9M100 or 9M96. If it is 9M96, then it has a range of 10-40km, that's a pretty decent range for ship of that size.

Here is a model of the thing.


This is getting a great topic, 13 pages of topic and you haven't even assembled 2 pieces of the ship yet!!!

[Neptune]

It has been updated with some nice pics.

http://forums.airbase.ru/2012/12/t85910 ... .2979.html

and this one's full of nice pics.
http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/pfc-joker/ ... 23/?page=1

To see the full size pic, click the small downward arrow on the bottom right of the pics and choose a different size.

[Dave Wooley]

Hi Roel thanks for the link they will prove to be very useful indeed.
Also a quick up date. The running gear arrived from George Sitek which to my surprise included the rudder arrangement.

Dave Wooley

[Capit�o Norbert]

Dave the quality of your models sincerely is the best.
i have purchased these runnings for Bismarck
really fantastic pieces of art

p.s. i am near to paint my shipyard

[sandy]

Very nice, Dave.

I am glad you got a hold of George. My efforts have been in vain for my 48th scale Fletcher.

All the best
Sandy

P.S. How long did it take you to get the running gear?

[Dave Wooley]

Dave the quality of your models sincerely is the best.
i have purchased these runnings for Bismarck
really fantastic pieces of art

p.s. i am near to paint my shipyard

hi Norberto my friend good to hear from you . George Sitek followed the drawings and pictures and and I 'm very pleased with the results. Good to hear that your ship yard is soon to be in commission building superb warships . Don't forget instal plenty of lights in the UK we always need more light
Dave Wooley

[Dave Wooley]

Very nice, Dave.

I am glad you got a hold of George. My efforts have been in vain for my 48th scale Fletcher.

All the best
Sandy

P.S. How long did it take you to get the running gear?

Hi Sandy yes GS can be a little difficult to contact as he's often away or worse still if you try to ring when George is in his work shop . I ordered my running gear about 6 months ago but as you know I didn't have a hull at that time, couldn't make a start anyway but ordered the running gear well in advance knowing the situation , even now George is actually ahead of my build schedule . Don�t despair keep sending e-mails he will respond?
Dave Wooley

[Capit�o Norbert]

Dave the quality of your models sincerely is the best.
i have purchased these runnings for Bismarck
really fantastic pieces of art

p.s. i am near to paint my shipyard

hi Norberto my friend good to hear from you . George Sitek followed the drawings and pictures and and I 'm very pleased with the results. Good to hear that your ship yard is soon to be in commission building superb warships . Don't forget instal plenty of lights in the UK we always need more light
Dave Wooley

i will do the extra lights. i have central luminary and i have another movable luminary.
soon i pretend post some pictures

[Ticonderoga]

Good to see the running gear Dave - George does such delightful work. Looking forward to seeing the gear go into the hull.

Just a hint........ I will be very interested to see how you (and others) keep the holes where the A bracket legs go into the hull just the right size. Because of their V shape, on Varyag I finished up making very big holes that I then had to fill again. So I will be watching your technique - I am sure you will share..........

Regards,

Andrew

[Dave Wooley]

Good to see the running gear Dave - George does such delightful work. Looking forward to seeing the gear go into the hull.

Just a hint........ I will be very interested to see how you (and others) keep the holes where the A bracket legs go into the hull just the right size. Because of their V shape, on Varyag I finished up making very big holes that I then had to fill again. So I will be watching your technique - I am sure you will share..........

Regards,

Andrew

Hi Andrew will do my best On Daring the rudders are angled outward . thankfully there is only the single rudder on Steregushchiy but the shaft angle is high . which actually makes fitting the A frame slightly easier and the entry gaps more accurate ,at least that's what I keep saying .
Dave Wooley

[ozpirate]

It's been a while since I posted anything anywhere so here goes mate.
on Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:32 pm you answered Bruce with this information below.
Hi Bruce the hull measures 1450mm x 205mm , not to big to work with ,I can even turn the hull in my tiny workshop , couldn't do that with the Kiev or Daring but 72 is a great scale to work with . Dave Wooley

The question I have is about the dimensions. I may be wrong but I better find out now rather than when under construction.
Length 104.5m = 1/1 1451mm = 1/72
Beam 11.6m = 1/1 161mm = 1/72
Something in your statement doesn't sound right. You said 205mm where I get 161mm..... Who's right?

I have a hull and today I have my basic drawings so when I read this you have me wondering if I have it wrong!!!
I hope to start work soon, mind you I have to sort out my reconstructed garage and also find out where everything was hidden or placed. I have had to use my garage for 2 families moving house so just as I get it right I had to compact everything to get furniture in. That's fun when you know the size of my models fit rather tightly inside the garage to start with.

Have you done any work on your Stergy yet?

[ozpirate]

Where are you Dave? A little work done on my Stergy.
It's the small one at the bottom of the picture.

[Dave Wooley]

Hi Mike The modellers drawings I have are now fully completed and are drawn by Peter Brown a naval architect. The sizes I have given are the sizes of the 1:72nd hull from a plug and mould made by Canadian Jonathan Evens from Peters drawings . I cannot confirm to you that the sizes are absolutely correct. I can only confirm that Peter has spent a considerable amount of time assessing the �stated� dimensions of the vessel { there are more than one] from a professional perspective . I cannot say categorically that they are correct as there is no "accurate" or reliable information available. Good to see that you have made a start on your model I look forward to seeing some build pictures in the near future best of luck with the build.
Dave Wooley

[manya]

Hi Mr. Wooley! I'm very impressed with the work you do!
I'm planning to build same ship but in paper. Was looking for materials and found this thread. Main problem i face is to find blueprints. Is there any possible way to get those blueprints you have?

[Timmy C]

A few photos, some on the deck, of the Steregushchy, taken in Sweden by a Redditor: http://imgur.com/a/SJQGm

Better save them - not sure how long they'll be up for, though I doubt he'd delete them.

[Dave Wooley]

Thanks Timmy I never stop collecting , I never seem to have enough pictures .
Dave Wooley

[Dave Wooley]

I have a general request from any of our German modelling friends that might be attending Kiel Week . Apparently the Russian corvette Soobraziltel'nyy is listed as one of the vessels due to pay a visit and I would very much appreciate any help with regards to photos of this ship. Thank you all in advance for any possible help.
Dave Wooley