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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:06 am
by 109
Oh, next thing will be sanding and applying some filler and primer. I should then mount the rudders and after that inserting the main deck.

Bye.

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:29 am
by EJFoeth
That's looking better and better. It's amazing to see these horrible sharp lines in the hull (from a hydrodynamics point of view) but well done from a modelers point of view :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:40 am
by 109
Hi Evert-Jan,

yes, these lines look strange, but basically they are present on all German capital ships. I sent you some drawings and you may be able to let us know what you think about it.

Bye now,

Bernd. :wave_1:

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:01 am
by EJFoeth
Thanks you. Last time I took a look at the lines of Tirpitz I didn't notice that. For well-faired hull, they do seem to be anomalies. In order to see how they affect the flow, you'd have to perform a hull flow calculation and see how well the pressure behaves. That's actually the best way to see how well a hull is faired as the pressure distribution is very sensitive to the geometry and would give is some insight if the effect of the knuckle is large.

But the fairing at the forefoot is pretty lousy anyway :smallsmile: We try to avoid the lines leaving the keel at such an angle and always try to fair them into the keel plane. The flow is usually going down quite steeply over the first part of the bow running over the bow bilge.

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:46 am
by 109
Hi,

before closing the hull by inserting the main deck I have to add the rudders. I started the reconstruction of the rudder in CorelDRAW.

:wave_1:

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:08 am
by Capit�o Norbert
109 wrote:Hi,

before closing the hull by inserting the main deck I have to add the rudders. I started the reconstruction of the rudder in CorelDRAW.

:wave_1:
nice drawing and nice plan too :big_grin:

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:38 am
by DrPR
Bernd,

Did the sea chests have gratings over them to fair them with the hull surface? This would minimize the disturbance to water flow over the hull.

The large size of the sea chest openings, compared to the diameter of the internal pipes, suggests a grating with the total area of the holes in the grating equal to the cross section of the internal pipe.

On some ships all smaller to mid size intakes have gratings, and some of the mid size exhausts have gratings. The larger intakes and exits are faired into the hull, with scoops on intakes to redirect flow into the ship and fairwaters on the exhausts to blend the flow back into the water stream.

Phil

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:20 am
by 109
DrPR wrote:Bernd,

Did the sea chests have gratings over them to fair them with the hull surface? This would minimize the disturbance to water flow over the hull.

The large size of the sea chest openings, compared to the diameter of the internal pipes, suggests a grating with the total area of the holes in the grating equal to the cross section of the internal pipe.

On some ships all smaller to mid size intakes have gratings, and some of the mid size exhausts have gratings. The larger intakes and exits are faired into the hull, with scoops on intakes to redirect flow into the ship and fairwaters on the exhausts to blend the flow back into the water stream.

Phil

Hi,

all seaboxes have gratings, I will post pictures of my PE-parts this weekend. Artwork see file attached to this posting. I reconstructed the gratings according to a photo I have. The large water intake do also habe gratings, but a wider spaced variety.

Talk to you soon,

Bernd.

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:03 am
by 109
Weekend ... :woo_hoo:

Picture showing my PE-gratings, mainly the larger ones.

Started the metal work on the rudders ...

Bye.

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:58 pm
by Capit�o Norbert
finest PE
wow :wave_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:03 pm
by 109
Hi,

I made the artwork using CorelDRAW and sent it to SAEMANN for etching - highly recommended :thumbs_up_1:

Will you be doing PE? I will using them only to a limited degree as they are not suited for all detail work ... in my view, however.

Bye!

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:04 pm
by 109
A first dry fitting of the rudder to its shaft ...

:wave_1:

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:34 pm
by Richard J OMalley
Hi 109
Great grills . :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:42 pm
by Capit�o Norbert
109 wrote:Hi,

I made the artwork using CorelDRAW and sent it to SAEMANN for etching - highly recommended :thumbs_up_1:

Will you be doing PE? I will using them only to a limited degree as they are not suited for all detail work ... in my view, however.

Bye!
Bernd is expensive? :wave_1:
i never used PE always doing myself.
but seeing your PE give mes wishes to use it too :heh: :cool_2: :cool_2:

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:43 pm
by Capit�o Norbert
109 wrote:A first dry fitting of the rudder to its shaft ...

:wave_1:
great rudder and shaft
i like :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:59 am
by 109
Installing the rudder trunk ... :wave_1:

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:52 am
by Capit�o Norbert
perfect work.
i apreciate one entire pic from the bottom hull if possible.
:thumbs_up_1:

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:12 am
by 109
I will give it a try - I only have a macro lens ...!

Bye.

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:56 am
by Dave Wooley
Superb workmanship .Question how will you be shaping the rudder profile?
Dave Wooley :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:

Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:07 am
by 109
Hi Dave,

top and bottom of the blade has a tear drop shaped frame. I will post pictures tonight....

I enjoy your hangar build! :thumbs_up_1:

Bye,

Bernd.