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The USN started to remove 20-mm guns from destroyers in ABOUT 1953. So, timeframe and which DDE "sub-group" NEW was in would dictate how many and where the twin 20-mm guns were mounted.
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Rick E Davis wrote:The USN started to remove 20-mm guns from destroyers in ABOUT 1953. So, timeframe and which DDE "sub-group" NEW was in would dictate how many and where the twin 20-mm guns were mounted.
Hi Rick,

thanks for your reply! I would like to build USS New as you can see her on the photo at flank speed with her bow out of the water:
http://ussnewdd818.org/Photo_page1_ship_photos.html

It seems to me the photo was taken around 1950 - 1955. She was in DesRon 36 at that time. You couldn't see small details very well but you can see the tripod mast, Mk. 15 trainable hedgehog, torpedo tubes and HF/DF mast aft. Most of the photos you will find on News web page were taken from starbord and not from port.
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Christian,
Thank you very much for the info. I look forward to getting my hands on a set.
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Hi again,

regarding to the number of US News 20mm Oerlikons I have reviewed a lot of sources. Consequential I decided to put five 20mm Oerlikon to the model. I used also the tripod base from Lion Roar instead of the gun pivot. The barrals and the PE comes from L'Arsenal nice set. I have added plastic rod as a pin on the bottom for fixing the gun to the hole in the deck. The other pin is the guns base.
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There are a lot of parts to finish and it is time-consuming to make progress. Now the PE is fixed to the boat and the loockout chairs are finished with some extra details in form of binoculars.
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Also finished with some more detail, the three Mk. 51 gun director tubs.
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More and more New wake up to life.
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Hi Christian,

Lookin' real good! Nice work with the PE, crisp bends and nice and straight fit. It's fun watching your build. :smallsmile:

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That's a very impressive job :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:



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Hi again,

Timm and Jose, nice to see you�re watching my build :wave_1:

there is always a bit of time to find to work on the model but now I have finished the K-gun and Mk. 9 DC racks. It was easy to bend the parts with my Hold and Fold bending tool. The racks lacks the charges, but I have only styrene in diameter 1.5mm at the moment and that isn�t thick enough.
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Next I have made two lockers that were placed in front of the bridge, next to the Mk. 15 hedgehog. I�ve modified the lockers (unused lockers from sprue D) with some styrene.
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Next I�ve added parts often seen on photos. First, platform edges to keep the aft legs of the tripod mast.
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Second, clamps and hinges on the 40mm gun tubes to hold the tubs canvas covers. Attempts to make the clamps/hinges from 1/700 scale railing failed. At first I thought about making the parts from plastic stripes and fine bras, but then I decided to use stretched sprue instead of brass.
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That's it for now :wave_1:
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Re: 1/350 USS New (DDE-818)

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Christian,

I am wondering if you have any plans of loading up the 40mm ammo racks or leave them empty?


And this may be a general question for eveyone, out there. I just started wondering this, lately, after putting them on my USS Oyster Bay AGP-6. I can't recall seeing any models where the modeler has inserted something in the racks to replicate the ammo ready for use. I covered mine with canvas, instead, mostly because it will be in a diorama and "in action" somewhat.
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NukeMM wrote:Christian,

I am wondering if you have any plans of loading up the 40mm ammo racks or leave them empty?
Most of my ants and spiders who are working to finish USS New are in holiday, so I think (just now) I will leave the racks empty :big_grin:

Joking apart, a question I haven't thought about before. I have thought only for making canvas covers, but I have dismissed it because I would like to see the fine details of the racks!
Man you make me thinking aout the next problem :cool_2:
On most of the photos showing the ships in a harbor or a yard, the racks are emtpy because of the unloaded amunition! But on employment they sould be ready for action. Mhhh, I would like to display USS New on high seas - ok, time will tell :thinking:
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Re: 1/350 USS New (DDE-818)

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Christian,

I hope that you don't mind, but I'd like to post these pictures of the 40mm ammo rack canvas covers on the USS Oyster Bay, here.

I also have detail plans of AVP/AGP showing the specifics of the canvas covers for the 40mm ammo racks, if you are interested.

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Hi Carl,

quite the converse! Yes, please show us your photos and information you have. The photos are really amazing and, I think, not only for me of interest! I really like the second one because of the sea in the backround and the he sailors on watch, resting at their gun, a photo with a fine atmosphere!
Thanks for sharing!
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Christian Bruer wrote:Hi Carl,

quite the converse! Yes, please show us your photos and information you have. The photos are really amazing and, I think, not only for me of interest! I really like the second one because of the sea in the backround and the he sailors on watch, resting at their gun, a photo with a fine atmosphere!
Thanks for sharing!
Christian,

Here are cropped images from the larger plan drawing of the AVP 40mm ammo rack canvas'. They may be way, too detailed for 1/350 but, interesting none-the-less.

One idea that Rui gave me was to open one or two of the canvas covers with a flap to show part of the rack detail, below it. Full or empty, this would be a nice detail. It was too, late for my model.

By the way, I used dark (brown) decal stripes that I made and printed out on m inkjet printer and then used Solvaset to soften it and to take shape around and under the rack. I then used Model Master Acrylic Navy Gloss Gray for the final color and a dull coat over that. I have found that Navy Gloss Gray is a little olive drab and little dark gray and is a believable color when refering to black and white or sepia toned photographs.

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Hi Carl,

the plans are interesting not only because I like it to study technical drawings - thanks again for sharing also the fine USS oyster Bay photos!

Regarding to the racks, I will leave them as they are now on my model because I don't want to have another site of works on my USS New. But I will keep it for my next projects!
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Sorry for the absence on comments Christian (reason: Telford)

I think that if you make (IMHO) some of the racks covered with canvas and with the flip open so that the details can be seen, and have the "trouble" to make some ammo clips (one and the resin copy a few more) it would be a much interesting situation.
When on sea, and if not on battle stations, most ready ammo lockers are canvas covered

You are detailing your DDE in a very good way.
I am following this built with much interest (even if there's no DD/DE in the next projects list)

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See, Christian? I told you it was Rui's idea! :wave_1: :cool_2:
Rui Matos wrote:Sorry for the absence on comments Christian (reason: Telford)

I think that if you make (IMHO) some of the racks covered with canvas and with the flip open so that the details can be seen, and have the "trouble" to make some ammo clips (one and the resin copy a few more) it would be a much interesting situation.
When on sea, and if not on battle stations, most ready ammo lockers are canvas covered

You are detailing your DDE in a very good way.
I am following this built with much interest (even if there's no DD/DE in the next projects list)

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Hi Carl

I gave it (the idea) and now it's for every one to use it - Hmmm royalties would be a good idea :cool_2: :wave_1:
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NukeMM wrote:See, Christian? I told you it was Rui's idea! :wave_1: :cool_2:
Rui Matos wrote:Sorry for the absence on comments Christian (reason: Telford)

I think that if you make (IMHO) some of the racks covered with canvas and with the flip open so that the details can be seen, and have the "trouble" to make some ammo clips (one and the resin copy a few more) it would be a much interesting situation.
When on sea, and if not on battle stations, most ready ammo lockers are canvas covered

You are detailing your DDE in a very good way.
I am following this built with much interest (even if there's no DD/DE in the next projects list)

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Thanks!
Dave, I have used the single 5�/38 � box #350-001! The part fits well to the new Mk. 15 Hedgehog! Thanks for your :wave_1: comment
Christian,

Thank you very much. I ordered a set from Pacific Front, and I am very pleased with them. I am surprised with the detail. The base rings, like the one you used, will be great for a few other things, including modern 5" guns as well.

Keep up the posts. Your work is very inspirational.

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Hey Christian, I've built half a dozen (resin) US destroyers and found them quite boring (in design), but the detail your adding to this kit puts it in a whole new league of excellence. Great job.
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@Rui and Carl, I�m thinking about your sugesstion about the rack covers :cool_2:

@Dave, I�m pleased to hear you�ve got one, and yes, the detail is quite good!

@Kim, thank you for your kind comment!

Back to USS New! Today I start working on the base. I have used Styrodur, a more compressed sort of Styrofoam. That was the first time I shaped a seabase for a larger model, and shaping the compressed stuff was not as easy as I thought. In the end I used a knife to shape the rough base and then sanding paper for the finer work.
Before I cut out the ships section I shaped at first the whole display (the display is arpox. 25cm x 55cm). In the second step I cut out the ship section slightly smaller than the ships outline and fitted the hull by shaping the ships outline with sanding paper. I would like to display the model making a starboard turn with the starboard lower hull coming out of the water. The underwater bow can also be seen.

I�m curious what you think of that!
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I like the look. When I do my USS The Sullivans I think I will try the compressed foam. I am going to have heavy rolling seas, and I think the way you did it gives more control over the rolling waves. Thanks for the idea.
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