Stretched spru alternative
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Akula
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Stretched spru alternative
Has anyone tried surplus fiber optic strands.
I see there is stuff on the web that is cheap.
I think .0035" diameter strands would be less of a headache than the plastic spru method.
At least you would have absolutely consistent diameter "optical strands" vs the lumpy plastic stretching method.
Crawling back under my rock now.....
Bob
I see there is stuff on the web that is cheap.
I think .0035" diameter strands would be less of a headache than the plastic spru method.
At least you would have absolutely consistent diameter "optical strands" vs the lumpy plastic stretching method.
Crawling back under my rock now.....
Bob
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Re: Stretched spru alternative
There are plenty of existing alternatives to stretched sprue, such as fly fishing lines (thinnest of which is UNI Caenis) or EZ line. While fibre optic lines may work, their transparent nature means they can appear extra thick if the light is shining through them.
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Re: Stretched spru alternative
JMO, EZ line looks wrong in 1/700 and almost so in 1/350. Caenis is a good alternative if you can find good, tacky glue that won't from nasty little clots like CA glue.Timmy C wrote:There are plenty of existing alternatives to stretched sprue, such as fly fishing lines (thinnest of which is UNI Caenis) or EZ line. While fibre optic lines may work, their transparent nature means they can appear extra thick if the light is shining through them.
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Re: Stretched spru alternative
Very fine wire is also nice working option. I'm using 0.05mm wire for 1/700 and 0.1mm for 1/350. It gives you opportunity to have straight riggings without any tensions. Another benefit is that once completed - strengthens structurally riggings and masts
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Re: Stretched spru alternative
I see the advantages you mention however.....how do you join your wire together without accumulating adhesive residue at the joints ? (the area in which sprue shines, since there is no buildup)blacman wrote:Very fine wire is also nice working option. I'm using 0.05mm wire for 1/700 and 0.1mm for 1/350. It gives you opportunity to have straight riggings without any tensions. Another benefit is that once completed - strengthens structurally riggings and masts
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Re: Stretched spru alternative
EZ Line is great! However... when you look really closely at it, it is ribbon-like. It's sort of flat. And that really becomes apparent when you paint it ( silver, as for wire cable - light reflection reveals where it is flat, and where it is not). If the company could make it as a monofilament fiber it would be perfect. 
- sargentx
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Re: Stretched spru alternative
I like to use a variety of things depending on the situation. I've had great experiences with the hairs from a straight black wig I bought at a Halloween store. It shrinks and tightens with incense, but is less prone to breakage due to the heat. It looks like sprue and is quite fine. It's like fatter caenis.
Every time the PE sticks to your tweezers, you lose a minute off your life.
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biggles2
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Re: Stretched spru alternative
What kind of incense does it work best with? Sandalwood? Last time I had to burn incense was in the '60's

- sargentx
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Re: Stretched spru alternative
hahah!
I use Nag Champa. I like the smell : )
Seriously though, it's so nice to be able to see the smoke stream to target the line you want to tighten.
I use Nag Champa. I like the smell : )
Seriously though, it's so nice to be able to see the smoke stream to target the line you want to tighten.
Every time the PE sticks to your tweezers, you lose a minute off your life.
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Re: Stretched spru alternative
I startet rigging from main rig. Then I installing all other like halyards, antenas etc upway: first I make fixation point down (hull or superstructure) by CA glue and I'm finding second fixation point on main rig. Then use fine liquid CA glue : apply in potential fixation point small portion CA - by sharp toothstick and join two wires. After a while I touch once more very sharp toothstick with CA the join from opposite side to apply a bit more glue.Pagodaphile wrote:I see the advantages you mention however.....how do you join your wire together without accumulating adhesive residue at the joints ? (the area in which sprue shines, since there is no buildup)blacman wrote:Very fine wire is also nice working option. I'm using 0.05mm wire for 1/700 and 0.1mm for 1/350. It gives you opportunity to have straight riggings without any tensions. Another benefit is that once completed - strengthens structurally riggings and masts
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Re: Stretched spru alternative
After a tip on the MW forum, I bought some Gakken rigging wire from Hobby Link Japan and that works quite well. It's metal rigging that is tensionless and can be cut to size. Nice when you expect that rigging tension might be a problem, in my case rigging fixed to PE fixed to brass and stainless steel. I also intend to use it for funnel stays but not for rigging the derrick (need something more flexible to go around the pulleys); not sure what I will use there.
(Note: I find HLJ new order system absolutely awful and will try not to buy anything from them)
(Note: I find HLJ new order system absolutely awful and will try not to buy anything from them)
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Akula
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Re: Stretched spru alternative
HLJ is a joke these days.
All I see is Modelkasten wire, no Gakken ?????
Bob
All I see is Modelkasten wire, no Gakken ?????
Bob
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EJFoeth
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Re: Stretched spru alternative
Err yes, that was what I meant, sorry 
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biggles2
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Re: Stretched spru alternative
I started with stretched sprue and wasn't happy so I tried different kinds of light fishing line, then UNI Caenis (which I can't even see!), then EZ Line which is way too big in 1/700 anyway, and even fine brass wire, now I'm using stretched sprue again, this time more successfully. 
- Rob-UK
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Re: Stretched spru alternative
I've tried all sorts, and ended up settling with stretched sprue (using the reliable Jim Bauman method of production), attached with PVA.
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Re: Stretched spru alternative
One thing I learned recently about EZ line is that it's fibrous. You can snap it, it frays, and you can pull out individual, much smaller pieces. I'm going to give it a try on my next project.
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