very fine wire
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weasel48
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very fine wire
I cannot find any online source* of fine steel or brass wire, like finer than 28 gauge (not sure I remember gauge#).
I need stuff in the .005-.010 inch range.
Thanks,
Weasel
(*well, I can if I want to buy 1000 feet of it!)
I need stuff in the .005-.010 inch range.
Thanks,
Weasel
(*well, I can if I want to buy 1000 feet of it!)
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Re: very fine wire
Try electric guitar strings.
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- dhenning
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Re: very fine wire
Detail Associates (a model railroading item) sells a 4 piece set of 12" long sticks of 0.010" brass. Part No. 2503. Check you local model railroading shop.
On the pack of the package that I have, they also list .006" (part no. 2501), .008" (part no. 2503). They also list a part no. 3503 for the .010 wire -might be longer sticks.
Good luck!
On the pack of the package that I have, they also list .006" (part no. 2501), .008" (part no. 2503). They also list a part no. 3503 for the .010 wire -might be longer sticks.
Good luck!
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weasel48
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Re: very fine wire
Detail assocs is alive and well on the Walther.com site, so I bought some, and must wait patiently for snail mail.
Thanks,
Weasel
Thanks,
Weasel
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Re: very fine wire
Old electronic equipment can be a good source.. Strip out the Coil and you will have many ft/meters of very fine wire. Also speaker wire can be stripped out for a good source...like small gauge electrical wire it's stranded..
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EJFoeth
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Re: very fine wire
Don't strip down electric engines and such, do a search for "scientific wire" (or similar) or "winding wire". They sell small reels with a mile of the stuff in any thickness you think you might need. I used the "Scientic Wire" becuase you can solder it (winding wire is often coated; you can't tell it is until the soldering fails. But if that doesn't matter: great!).
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MatthewB
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Re: very fine wire
I know that you can get fine brass/copper wiring that is as fine as a few thousandths of an inch (roughly a bit thicker than a human hair).
When thinking about rigging my USS San Francisco and HIJMS Nagara, I remembered the wires that I used to struggle with soldering on nano/micro-R/C airplanes (Radio Controlled airplanes with wingspans around 4" or 100mm).
The wire is called "Thermocouple Wire", and is available in sizes from .001" to .064":
http://www.omega.com/pptst/SPIR.html
This is what I plan to use to rig the ships, when I eventually get around to doing so.
The wire would be very close to "in scale" for 1/700, and for 1/350 scale you could get wire that was, in-scale, only �" in diameter (so you could have deck reels that had appropriately sized cables).
If you are a real glutton for punishment, they make wiring for prosthetic cybernetic components (stuff that is used for implanting electrodes to individual synapses locations in the brain) that is as thin as .0001" (and smaller). But it is hideously expansive (something like $10/cm). But if you REALLY wanted to get a �" rope on a 1/700 scale ship, then you would have to go with that stuff (I would have to get a link from one of my ex-professors for the smaller surgical/cybernetics stuff though), as well as sell a kidney or other redundant organ to finance the wire.
MB
When thinking about rigging my USS San Francisco and HIJMS Nagara, I remembered the wires that I used to struggle with soldering on nano/micro-R/C airplanes (Radio Controlled airplanes with wingspans around 4" or 100mm).
The wire is called "Thermocouple Wire", and is available in sizes from .001" to .064":
http://www.omega.com/pptst/SPIR.html
This is what I plan to use to rig the ships, when I eventually get around to doing so.
The wire would be very close to "in scale" for 1/700, and for 1/350 scale you could get wire that was, in-scale, only �" in diameter (so you could have deck reels that had appropriately sized cables).
If you are a real glutton for punishment, they make wiring for prosthetic cybernetic components (stuff that is used for implanting electrodes to individual synapses locations in the brain) that is as thin as .0001" (and smaller). But it is hideously expansive (something like $10/cm). But if you REALLY wanted to get a �" rope on a 1/700 scale ship, then you would have to go with that stuff (I would have to get a link from one of my ex-professors for the smaller surgical/cybernetics stuff though), as well as sell a kidney or other redundant organ to finance the wire.
MB
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Working on:
1/700 (All Fall 1942):
HIJMS Nagara
HIJMS Aoba & Kinugasa
USS San Francisco
USS Helena
USS St. Louis
USS Laffey & Farenholt
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 4 - 7
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 13 - 16
Working on:
1/700 (All Fall 1942):
HIJMS Nagara
HIJMS Aoba & Kinugasa
USS San Francisco
USS Helena
USS St. Louis
USS Laffey & Farenholt
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 4 - 7
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 13 - 16
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MatthewB
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Re: very fine wire
See previous post:EJFoeth wrote:Don't strip down electric engines and such, do a search for "scientific wire" (or similar) or "winding wire". They sell small reels with a mile of the stuff in any thickness you think you might need. I used the "Scientic Wire" becuase you can solder it (winding wire is often coated; you can't tell it is until the soldering fails. But if that doesn't matter: great!).
Thermocouple wire.
MB
OMG LOOK! A signature
Working on:
1/700 (All Fall 1942):
HIJMS Nagara
HIJMS Aoba & Kinugasa
USS San Francisco
USS Helena
USS St. Louis
USS Laffey & Farenholt
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 4 - 7
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 13 - 16
Working on:
1/700 (All Fall 1942):
HIJMS Nagara
HIJMS Aoba & Kinugasa
USS San Francisco
USS Helena
USS St. Louis
USS Laffey & Farenholt
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 4 - 7
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 13 - 16
- Quincy
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Re: very fine wire
If you have a Hobby Lobby in your location, they have different gauges of wire in their craft section.
Bob pink.
Bob pink.
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MatthewB
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Re: very fine wire
The smallest they have is around .02". I just got back from one looking for .010" wire.Quincy wrote:If you have a Hobby Lobby in your location, they have different gauges of wire in their craft section.
Bob pink.
MB
OMG LOOK! A signature
Working on:
1/700 (All Fall 1942):
HIJMS Nagara
HIJMS Aoba & Kinugasa
USS San Francisco
USS Helena
USS St. Louis
USS Laffey & Farenholt
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 4 - 7
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 13 - 16
Working on:
1/700 (All Fall 1942):
HIJMS Nagara
HIJMS Aoba & Kinugasa
USS San Francisco
USS Helena
USS St. Louis
USS Laffey & Farenholt
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 4 - 7
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 13 - 16
- nikosmadakis
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Re: very fine wire
why not use caenis thread? The smallest wire i could find is 0,1mm (sorry dont know what that is in inches). Got it from an arts and jewelry supplies store. Its very passable in 1/350 rigging. For 1/700 caenis thread is half the diameter, not to mention dirt cheap (about 2 bucks for 200m)
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MatthewB
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Re: very fine wire
.1mm is .025"nikosmadakis wrote:why not use caenis thread? The smallest wire i could find is 0,1mm (sorry dont know what that is in inches). Got it from an arts and jewelry supplies store. Its very passable in 1/350 rigging. For 1/700 caenis thread is half the diameter, not to mention dirt cheap (about 2 bucks for 200m)
Caenis Thread is about .033". I suppose for 1/350 scale that would work for rigging (although in-scale that is almost a foot in diameter).
Which is why I posted the link to the Thermocouple wiring, which is only � scale-inches (the smallest Thermocouple wire is .0005", most being .001" to .01").
And Thermocouple wire is pretty inexpensive.
MB
OMG LOOK! A signature
Working on:
1/700 (All Fall 1942):
HIJMS Nagara
HIJMS Aoba & Kinugasa
USS San Francisco
USS Helena
USS St. Louis
USS Laffey & Farenholt
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 4 - 7
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 13 - 16
Working on:
1/700 (All Fall 1942):
HIJMS Nagara
HIJMS Aoba & Kinugasa
USS San Francisco
USS Helena
USS St. Louis
USS Laffey & Farenholt
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 4 - 7
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 13 - 16
- nikosmadakis
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Re: very fine wire
i think you got your decimals wrong. 0,1mm is 3,5cm not a foot (33cm) in 1/350. It's passable as rigging in that scale. Caenis is finer than that, 0,04mm less than half. Perfect for 1/700
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MatthewB
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Re: very fine wire
I was referring to the .033" caenis thread, not .1mm.nikosmadakis wrote:i think you got your decimals wrong. 0,1mm is 3,5cm not a foot (33cm) in 1/350. It's passable as rigging in that scale. Caenis is finer than that, 0,04mm less than half. Perfect for 1/700
MB
OMG LOOK! A signature
Working on:
1/700 (All Fall 1942):
HIJMS Nagara
HIJMS Aoba & Kinugasa
USS San Francisco
USS Helena
USS St. Louis
USS Laffey & Farenholt
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 4 - 7
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 13 - 16
Working on:
1/700 (All Fall 1942):
HIJMS Nagara
HIJMS Aoba & Kinugasa
USS San Francisco
USS Helena
USS St. Louis
USS Laffey & Farenholt
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 4 - 7
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 13 - 16
- nikosmadakis
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Re: very fine wire
caenis, is 0,04mm which is 1,4 cm in scale(1/350). Slightly more than half an inch.
Have i misunderstood something? And i apologize for getting off topic here.
Have i misunderstood something? And i apologize for getting off topic here.
- Jon
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Re: very fine wire
Not for rigging but fine wire. Has anyone ever used this:
http://freetimehobbies.com/tetra-models ... 38mm-x-1m/
I'm looking for some thin wiring for hydraulic lines for 1/48 aircraft. Is it soft?
http://freetimehobbies.com/tetra-models ... 38mm-x-1m/
I'm looking for some thin wiring for hydraulic lines for 1/48 aircraft. Is it soft?
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Re: very fine wire
http://shelfoddity.com/index.php?route= ... duct_id=73
diameter 0.06mm. When unroll get straight. Ideal for rigging in 1/700
diameter 0.06mm. When unroll get straight. Ideal for rigging in 1/700
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MatthewB
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Re: very fine wire
The Thermocouple wire is still the thinnest you are going to get, at .017mm (.0005").
The more affordable stuff is still .024mm (.001").
MB
The more affordable stuff is still .024mm (.001").
MB
OMG LOOK! A signature
Working on:
1/700 (All Fall 1942):
HIJMS Nagara
HIJMS Aoba & Kinugasa
USS San Francisco
USS Helena
USS St. Louis
USS Laffey & Farenholt
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 4 - 7
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 13 - 16
Working on:
1/700 (All Fall 1942):
HIJMS Nagara
HIJMS Aoba & Kinugasa
USS San Francisco
USS Helena
USS St. Louis
USS Laffey & Farenholt
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 4 - 7
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 13 - 16
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wing_nut
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Re: very fine wire
I get lots of wire in the fishing department of a good sporting goid stote...used for fly tying. .006" is easy to find.
Get a cheap set of ear buds at a dollar store. You can usually find wire in the down to .002"
Get a cheap set of ear buds at a dollar store. You can usually find wire in the down to .002"
