Books about French warships?

Schnellboot · Post by **Schnellboot** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:56 am

Hello,

Are there any books about french battleships or armored cruisers from first world war? I'm looking for such book around the net but had still found nothing... So does anyone know books, in english language, but also in french too, that are about french warships from the time of the first world war?

Post by **Timmy C** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:56 pm

Have you checked out the French Defence Historical Service website?

http://www.servicehistorique.sga.defens ... entral.htm

Plans of many ships available for free download!

G. Shooda · Post by **G. Shooda** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:25 pm

Check Le Arsenal. I purchased Les Cuirasses de 23500 Tonnes & Les Cuirasses de 15000 Tonnes from that source. They also had a book on Courbet that I did not get. The books are well-illustrated but are of course in French. If you do not have the funds, much of the illustrations are posted on the Tsushima website, which is a great source of pictures for old French battleships & cruisers.

Schnellboot · Post by **Schnellboot** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:29 am

Timmy C wrote:Have you checked out the French Defence Historical Service website?

http://www.servicehistorique.sga.defens ... entral.htm

Plans of many ships available for free download!

Yes, I know about those free plans, and because of that I am interested in french navy of the first world war, especially armored cruisers...

G. Shooda wrote:Check Le Arsenal. I purchased Les Cuirasses de 23500 Tonnes & Les Cuirasses de 15000 Tonnes from that source. They also had a book on Courbet that I did not get. The books are well-illustrated but are of course in French. If you do not have the funds, much of the illustrations are posted on the Tsushima website, which is a great source of pictures for old French battleships & cruisers.

If I have understood right, this first book that you have mentioned is about french cruisers from the time after the first world war... and this second book I can't find on net... do you maybe have link to some web site that sells that book (so I could find out which other books that publisher had published)...

TTTTTTTTTT · Post by **TTTTTTTTTT** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:47 pm

Hello,
You can try these two publishers:

http://www.avions-bateaux.com/

http://www.marines-editions.fr/boutique/index.cfm

Good luck!

peppe · Post by **peppe** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:01 pm

they are some french books, not very expensive, the first on cruisers, the second on battleships and in the third address two "hors de series revue" one on battleships and destroyers and one on cruisers and monitors, lot of foto, lot of profiles in first two.

http://www.marines-editions.fr/boutique ... ag=2&num=2
http://www.marines-editions.fr/boutique ... ag=2&num=2
http://www.marines-editions.fr/boutique ... g_fr&num=3

they are also two books in japonese very well illustrated, a profile a lot of foto for each class, first on battleships the second on cruiser, you can find at

http://www.hlj.com/product/KAS473
http://www.hlj.com/product/KAS546

hope that help ciao peppe

Schnellboot · Post by **Schnellboot** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:09 pm

Aha! Thank you... but... considering pictures I have seen of those books listed above, if I have understood right (from pictures, not text) all those books are about warships from second world war? Or not?

gs · Post by gs » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:32 pm

Schnellboot:

Sorry that I was not very clear.

The books I cited were about battleships (French Cuirasse = English battleship).

L'Arsenal is one of the sponsors of the Website & can be accessed from the home page. The 15000 tonne book covers battleships displacing 15000 tons: Patrie, Republique, Democratie, Justice, Liberte, Verite. It is listed on page 7 of the L'Arsenal website.

The 23500 tonne book is slightly better in my opinion and covers the battleships that displaced 23500 tons: Courbet, Jean Bart, Paris, France, Bretagne, Provence, Lorraine.

Not sure about availability. You can E-mail L'Arsenal for information.

I highly recommend these books. I haven't seen anything like them.

If these 2 are not available, the Japanese Ships of the World book on French battleships mentioned by our friend Pepe is very good. It contains many very good photos of all of the French battleships.

I don't know about armored cruiser books. Sorry. I do like the look of those ships, however.

Website addresses for photos:

http://www.tsushima.org.ru/index_en.htm

peppe · Post by **peppe** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:14 pm

the books listed from me come frem the gloire (1860) to richelieu (1940) for battleships and for the steam cruisers, from 1860 (jeune ecole, ww1, ww2 and post ww2) until today.
ciao peppe

G Shoda · Post by **G Shoda** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:44 pm

Peppe:

How do you rate the 100 years of French battleships book?

How well illustrated is it. I am primarily interested in the early ironclads and unfamiliar images of the predreadnoughts.

TTTTTTTTTT · Post by **TTTTTTTTTT** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:02 pm

There are many photographs, but they are on the small side.

Another source for photos is the R.A. Burt paperback pictured here:

G. Shoda · Post by **G. Shoda** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:40 pm

Aha, Ted, you have a gold mine there!

Last time I looked, your rare book was going for $75 or more.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:35 am

G. Shoda wrote:Aha, Ted, you have a gold mine there!

Last time I looked, your rare book was going for $75 or more.

I paid �5 for mine. You can often find it cheap on abebooks.com

Cheers,

Rob

Gone Asiatic · Post by **Gone Asiatic** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:16 am

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/used/p ... 1854090218

Seems its available online from Barnes and Noble. I have found the Tsushima website photographs, and the French museum archives, an outstanding source of references for my 1/700 French Pre-Dreadnought
battleships.

Schnellboot · Post by **Schnellboot** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:32 pm

Aha... those books are about battleships... Thank you all on information...

And another question: is there any literature, or at least service history available on net of French armored cruisers of Leon Gambetta class (Leon Gammbeta, Victor Hugo, Jules Ferry) from first world war? My main interest in that class is Leon Gambetta...

peppe · Post by **peppe** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:51 pm

to g shoda about the book cent ans de cuirasses fran�ais
the book is rich of good foto have a lot of profiles but most type old janes and brasseys. some original plan, mostly on crossing sections, history of each ship of each classe. about predreadnoght more than 40 pages from brennus to danton.
definitevely a good book on a navy not so covered in the pubblications.

a resource on class gambetta
http://daboc73.ifrance.com/navis1gm/pag ... mbetta.htm

on ww1 flotte
http://daboc73.ifrance.com/navis1gm/pag ... ce1914.htm
ciao peppe

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