Calling all Bayern-class (Kaiserliche Marine) fans

[ingura]

SMS BAYERN in harbour




SMS HELGOLAND during speed trials

[Dave Wooley]

Hi Peter super shots and they look so realistic.
Dave Wooley

[ingura]

Hi Dave,

yes - I love photoshop. But what would it look like without the harbor in the background?

We met 2006 in Dortmund - loved your article about the harbor. At the moment we're trying desperately to get invited with the harbor diorama to the railrod exihibiton in Chatham 2008. This would be great - a model slipway on a slipway...

Hope we meet again some day Dave!

Sincerly

[Vlad]

OK i actually thought the second one was an RC model. they look very good indeed.

[Jefgte]

Nice "fotos "

I like particulary Bayern in the harbour.





Jef

[ingura]

Most interesting is the comparision between SMS BAYERN (WW 1) and BISMARCK (WW 2). Remember - same scale...

[moritzk]

Hello,

I want to open a thread for the fans of the german WW1 battleship class SMS Bayern/Baden.

I hope I am not allone!!!:)

Here are some informativ links:

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_di ... bayern.htm

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_di ... n_data.htm

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_15-45_skc13.htm

model:

http://www.mz-modellbau.net/core/bausaetze/baden.html

Some information will fellow!

Myself is going to start the SMS Baden as a 1/350 waterline Model.

About detail etc. I will inform you!!!

I would be happy If some of you would be interested in this thread!

best regards!

[Grossadmiral]

You're not alone ! I'm also a big fan of those fabulous ships - that's why I've built them all in 1/700 (incl. Sachsen and Wurttemberg). Staying tuned for more.

Dariusz Mazurowski

[moritzk]

Ohhh yea!!!

Not alone!:)

I saw ur ships at the gallary and on modellversium.de!!!

Fantastic work!

This shipclass is the reason, why I start my first complete scratch-construction!

Currently, I work on the first ribs!

Hope, I can upload some pictures soon!

[ModelMonkey]

Be sure to have a look at Bernd Villhauer's SMS Ostfriesland

[maartenship]

Hey there,

two weeks ago I stumbled across an extensive set of drawings of Bayern/Baden, being directed there by 'the Dreadnought Project' - see for yourself under their post for SMS Bayern/Baden.

Looking closer they revealed a lot of detail, and after working out that these ships had a fixed frame spacing of 1200 mm, nothing stopped me from enlarging these plans to an exact 1:350 scale (my favourite for warship model). It soon started to dawn on me that in fact the hull was nothing more than a slightly up-scaled K�nig type battleship! Length needed 13.3 mm and width only 1.5 mm.

Well, and as creating a hull is the major challenge when converting (or scratchbuilding) a ship model, I quickly saw the opportunity and off I went! Even before I had the kit available I already had turned my attention to another hurdle: I built a 38 cm main turret from scratch, and a friend of mine already promised me to cast four of these from resin. From the same source drawings of the turret were available.

In the meantime I have already cut up the hull, inserted a 13.5 mm plug from plasticard, split the hull at the keel and added a 1.5 mm shim there. Next made a new main deck from 1 mm plasticardlayered a sheet finely grooved Evergreen nr. 2020 on top of it to simulate the planking. So in fact the big hurdle has been taken within an hour: when you know what to do it's really quite simple!

Currently I'm working on the final details of the turret: the bolts (rivets if you will) on top, shown on a very good photograph of Baden on the same website as above.

Of course I know there is still a long way to go: the battery deck has to be built up next, very similar to the K�nig's but totally different in planform. Then the next boat deck layer and the superstructures: I believe these will have to be made largely from scratch, although many detail parts from the K�nig like guns, searchlights and boats might be used.

Well, I'll keep you posted about my progress and I hope I can make some pictures soon to show what she looks like!

Regards, Maarten

[USS California BB44]

Awesome model. At first glance, I thought those photos were of the real ship!

[Maarten Sch�nfeld]

Hi there,

As promised, some pictures from my progressing 1:350 Baden.

The ICM K�nig hull was stretched by 13.5 mm at its widest point, and in the keel a 1.5 mm insert was added to get the required beam. Also, the docking keels were added and the shape of the bow was corrected: from the keel to the stem there is a distinct 'kink' at frame 134, which is totaly missing in the kit.

A new deck was added, laid with Evergreen 2020 v-grooved plate. The deck over the casemates was made as per drawing, and the K�nig casemates were juggled as to make the best fit of them, needing several modifications and one completely built from scratch. Also the shelter deck was made.

I also made a 38cm turret plus guns from scratch, and had a friend of mine casting four copies from resin. Well, now on to building the superstructures, I already made the funnels from Evergreen tubing, and modified the K�nigs conning tower into the shape for the Baden.

Well, that's for now, once the superstructures are there I'll show you more.

Maarten

[Maarten Sch�nfeld]

Happy New Year to you all, with much pleasure in modelling!

I thought it was time for a little progress update on my 1:350 SMS Baden built. Painting and detailing has started in earnest.

Regards, Maarten

[JIM BAUMANN]

pretty cool and innovative modelmaking!


JIM B

[Maarten Sch�nfeld]

Thanks for the comment, Jim!

The Baden has already progressed much further, I should upload some pictures of the built, before it is all done...

By the way: along the same line I'm considering also the conversion of the K�nig into the Friedrich der Gro�e, a Kaiser class. In fact this will be even much easier, as the hull needs to be shortened instead of lenghtened, the K�nigs turrets can be used with small mods, and the superstructure is much simpler than that of the Baden.

Happy modelling!
Maarten

[Atma]

Anyone has any experience/comments for the WSW 1/700 Bayern and Baden battleships ?
Thanks in advance.

[JIM BAUMANN]

I built mine in 1997.... pre internet ( easier research!!) and pre custom -made PE


its a good starting point- though I guess probably now superseded by the Combrig quality of kits...

encs a couple of though-the -glass case snapshots....

JIM B

[Atma]

I always had WSW's resin offerings high, I shall invest then

[Maarten Sch�nfeld]

Hi,

At 1:700 scale our fellow Dariusz Mazurowski has made great effort to build all four ships of the Bayern class, in varying settings. Check out:

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html