Working ship stabilisers
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Working ship stabilisers
Hi,
Forgive me if this topic has been covered elswhere. I am planning a scratch built Slava Class Cruiser, she is fiited with four stabilisers and I would like to have mine "operational".
Would anybody have any tips or tricks for ensuring that the stabiliser shafts remain watertight as they penetrate the ships hull?
Thanks,
Andrew
Forgive me if this topic has been covered elswhere. I am planning a scratch built Slava Class Cruiser, she is fiited with four stabilisers and I would like to have mine "operational".
Would anybody have any tips or tricks for ensuring that the stabiliser shafts remain watertight as they penetrate the ships hull?
Thanks,
Andrew
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Re: Working ship stabilisers
I gather this is radio controlled? what scale, F/glass or woodenhull?
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Re: Working ship stabilisers
Yep, RC - 1/72 scale
Ply on Frame hull, Fiberglassed inside and out
Andrew
PS thinking of short stuffing tubes and inner shafts - sort of like rudders on their sides.
Ply on Frame hull, Fiberglassed inside and out
Andrew
PS thinking of short stuffing tubes and inner shafts - sort of like rudders on their sides.
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Re: Working ship stabilisers
Hi Peter,ingura wrote:Hi Andrew,
"tube & shaft" works for rudders because normally the top end is located above CWL and movement is limited (nothing rotating).
For a working stabilizer I would opt for a solution almost similar to prop shafts. Though the fins will not rotate, they are indeed located way below waterline. My "minimum-solution" would include a tube, watertight and stainless ball bearings and inside the hull a teflon seal made on a lathe to fit.
Good luck - and please let us know how you did it...
Peter.
Thanks for the advice. I agree with you. I am "thinking" about small prop like shafts inside a stuffing tube, sealed either end as per a normal prop shaft. Depending upon room and angles, I might be able to have the inboard end of the tubes above the waterline. We will see. When I get back home, I will hit the drawing board and see what we come up with.
Regards,
Andrew
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Re: Working ship stabilisers
Thanks Peter,
As soon as I have a concept drawn up, I will certainly send you a copy. In the first instance I don't expect to be using gyros. At first I will rely on a mechanical link between rudder angle and th epostion of the planes. Just for fun.....
Regards,
Andrew
As soon as I have a concept drawn up, I will certainly send you a copy. In the first instance I don't expect to be using gyros. At first I will rely on a mechanical link between rudder angle and th epostion of the planes. Just for fun.....
Regards,
Andrew
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Re: Working ship stabilisers
hi there, Andrew
You could connect them up to the rudders so that when the rudders turn
he stabilisers work against the usual swing of the boat
If you check here soem of the guys have done it
http://modelwarshipsuk.informe.com/forum/
You could connect them up to the rudders so that when the rudders turn
he stabilisers work against the usual swing of the boat
If you check here soem of the guys have done it
http://modelwarshipsuk.informe.com/forum/
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Re: Working ship stabilisers
Hi Colin,
Thanks for that.
I was thinking about linking to the rudders.
I messed up my registration on the forum so I am trying to get that sorted out so I can check out the threads. (I hit the born after button instead of the born before button)
Thanks for that.
I was thinking about linking to the rudders.
I messed up my registration on the forum so I am trying to get that sorted out so I can check out the threads. (I hit the born after button instead of the born before button)
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Re: Working ship stabilisers
Tico give John Slater a PM on the TF72 site I think he has done working stabilizers on some of his models, he mentioned in one his post's about using a sub leveler on the stab's.
So might be good 2 give him a yell.
Bruce
So might be good 2 give him a yell.
Bruce
building:
1/72 RC USS LONG BEACH CGN9
1/72 RC USS CALIFORNIA CGN36
1/72 RC USS SAIPAN LHA2
1/72 RC USS JOHN PAUL JONES DDG53
1/72 RC USS SHARK SSN591
1/72 RC USS SEAWOLF SSN21
1/72 RC USS ALBANY CG10
1/72 RC USS LONG BEACH CGN9
1/72 RC USS CALIFORNIA CGN36
1/72 RC USS SAIPAN LHA2
1/72 RC USS JOHN PAUL JONES DDG53
1/72 RC USS SHARK SSN591
1/72 RC USS SEAWOLF SSN21
1/72 RC USS ALBANY CG10