torpedo net rigging

[Steve Jones]

can anybody out there give me some tips on rigging the torpedo nets on dreadnought battleships? I've been trying to rig the stays etc that held the booms in place when the ships were underway but just can't seem to find anything that stays in place - I've tried stretched sprue & fine fishing line but I'm a ham fisted old git and it just doesn't look right! is it best to try to cut each piece seperately or 'drape' one long piece over the tips of the booms? any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Steve

[JIM BAUMANN]

In both 1/350 and 1/700 I have used stretched sprue successfully as individual pieces.

Trick is to adhere one end first--leave to set at an angle--then bend and fasten the other end--this will give a nice droopy effect

more info on stretching and gluing stretched sprue here:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37536

examples of stretched sprue net boom rigging from me:

1/350 SMS Koenig




1/700 HMS Queen Mary



Cheers


JB

[Christian M.]

Good morning,

beside rigging, I have a question itself about torpedo net and "how to make" itself ...

For my 1/350 Sevastopol from Zvezda I have PE Torpedonet inside but I will it make only on one side outrolled and installed on raised beams. On the other side I will make it rolled up and installed / stored on boardside. So big question is out of what and how to make. Has anyone any tipp abut or experience / still made it?

I can't really rate out of what Jim Baumann made it on his 2 models above...

Cheers,
Christian

[Timmy C]

Jim used/uses shoelace. He mentions it in one of his other posts and/or photo features in the gallery.

[Christian M.]

Shoelace ....
As so often, you are making a big head about how to make and the final / best solution is total simple at least. Thank you Timmy.

[David Griffith]

Dear Steve,

For the rigging lines, I'd suggest using Caenis thread. This is the incredibly fine monofilament intended for tying fishing flies on tiny hooks. It comes on a reel, and short lengths will have a natural curve that make it easy to have a natural droop. Cut pieces that are a little bit longer than you need, glue in place and allow to hang naturally as it sets, and then trim off the excess.

For the nets I'd recommend using ladies' nylon tights (panty-hose for the Americans among us). Get the finest denier you can find and the cheapest as well. Expensive brands with lots of Lycra will not work nearly as well. Also choose black.

Cut a thin strip, say 5mm or 6mm wide, and it will roll up into a thin tube or string. You can brush it with diluted PVA glue to stifen and make it easier to handle. This is ideal for rolled up torpedo netting, and not quite as heavy looking as a shoelace, which might be OK in 1/350, but is too big for 1/700.

I have never tried making deployed torpedo nets but have used this stuff to make deck edge nets for an aircraft carrier. Put some kind of open box, a kit box, say, inside the leg of a pair of tights, so that an area of the fabric is stretched out a bit over the open part of the box. There will then be fresh air under the fabric. Brush diluted PVA over the fabric. Blow very vigorously at it to burst the menisci that form over the holes in the fabric. Leave it to dry overnight and you will have something that is stiff enough to be cut to shape and that will not roll up or distort too much.

Kind regards,

David Griffith

[Christian M.]

Thank you David

But I have another question about torpedonet itself in meantime ... which color do they have / out of what are they made?

Sounds maybe strange, but after 30min with "aunt google" to become smarter in this issue, I kow lesser as before. Some pictures show that they were same mateials as fisher nets, other show they were made out of metall (i.e. at a wreck where it is rusty) ... well ... what shall I do / how shall I paint it later at my Sevastopol modell (and other modells later)?

Cheers,
Christian

[JIM BAUMANN]

Christian...

although this thread

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=145363

starts off with torp net poles--it also digresses into the nets themselves

which were almost always made of metal-- to deflect a torpedo!)

Naked steel does rust--so a black/ dark grey in small scale will work, maybe a hint of brown...will work--even for a shoelace !!


this is my shoelace effort:( albeit back in 1999/2000)-- I reckon I would improve on it now,,,,

this is Yuri logiazk Koenig

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html


Francisco de Napoleares did it differently...


http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html


Bill Livingstone used shoelace--albeit its not that textured...

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=93381&hilit=mikasa&start=60

[Christian M.]

Hi Jim,

thank you very much for explanation and examples! You know, if you are new, there come up sometimes "silly questions" for some details.
I think I know how to make and paint now at my Sevastopol ... and later on IJN Mikasa and after this at HMS Dreadnought.

Cheers,
Christian

[Forlornhope]

And question answered for me as well thanks