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Re: Wave Formed Sheet

by Pagodaphile » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:05 am

veliko_pile wrote:thanks for the tip, the "Lucerne" looks great, but I'm not from USA, so I cannot buy that, maybe here some shops have similar patterns
Not sure where you are located, but if you go to their home page you can see all the various applications the stuff is used for. I would bet that there is some sort of supplier for the material near you.....Good Luck

Re: Wave Formed Sheet

by veliko_pile » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:51 am

thanks for the tip, the "Lucerne" looks great, but I'm not from USA, so I cannot buy that, maybe here some shops have similar patterns

Re: Wave Formed Sheet

by Pagodaphile » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:44 am

I looked at the Tamiya wave sheets some time ago and found them too small and expensive for the size I usually work with. My scrounger instincts finally kicked in and I found an acrylic sheet supplier.

In the West Coast, its Tap Plastics, which operates several stores from California to Seattle. These guys sell the stuff in large sheets in various thicknesses for privacy glass applications, commercial displays, table tops, etc. I discovered that these stores custom cut the stock to size for their customers. This then leads one to the left-over scrap material from the cutting shop and the wonderful "scrap box". Large (by model standards) odd-shaped chunks can be found here for bargain prices (compared to the price from our friends at Tamiya), if you are willing to nose around a bit. A few times each year you can find me "dumpster diving" in one of these stores.

I have found their "Lucerne" and "Insbruck" texture patterns to be useful for a starting point to simulate various wave patterns. By holding each piece at an angle to the light, you can see if it has the "wave" pattern that you are looking for.

http://www.tapplastics.com/product/plas ... ucerne/549

http://www.tapplastics.com/product/plas ... ucerne/523

Re: Wave Formed Sheet

by veliko_pile » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:35 pm

Russ2146 wrote:Lucky Model shows it as "Available", which in Locky Model Speak means "We don't have it in stock but we'll take your order and ship the product to you and bill your credit card, when it comes in. Just don't hold your breath."
The two Japanese links I posted show it also but indicate that its not in stock
exactly, Lucky model "available" status means just that....But, I'm just wondering, I need this for a 1/350 A/C carrier, all this sheet are presumably for 1/700 scale, would it be "out of scale" for a 1/350 ship?

Re: Wave Formed Sheet

by Russ2146 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:29 pm

Lucky Model shows it as "Available", which in Locky Model Speak means "We don't have it in stock but we'll take your order and ship the product to you and bill your credit card, when it comes in. Just don't hold your breath."
The two Japanese links I posted show it also but indicate that its not in stock

Re: Wave Formed Sheet

by reigels » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:19 pm

Looks like Tamiya "Ocean Effect Plate A" is still available at Lucky Model:

http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=TA%2089673

I bought a few of these at HLJ a couple of years ago and they're pretty good: rough surface on one side and light wave pattern on the other. Was about twice the size I was expecting when it arrived. Get it where you can since they seem to have been discontinued.

Alternatively you might want to check your local home improvement store. Clear plastic diffusers panels for fluorescent lights sometimes can be found with a suitable wave pattern. Something like this: http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/sto ... =202653804 is only $5.00 a sheet.

See also: http://www.modelwarships.com/features/h ... ature.html

Re: Wave Formed Sheet

by Russ2146 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:48 pm

I tried that as a brand but didn"t come up with anything and if you look at the packaging he shows, it looks a lot like Tamiya's packaging.

Plastruct makes a similar product, though Tamiya's looks better, I think, for open ocean.

http://plastruct.com/Pages/OnlineCatalogIndex.lasso

WPRB-608 BLUE STORMY WATER SHEET 91804 COMPLETE
WPRC-608 CLEAR STORMY WATER SHEET 91814 COMPLETE
WPSB-208 BLUE CALM WATER SHEET 91801 COMPLETE
WPSB-208XL BLUE CALM WATER SHEET 91821 COMPLETE
WPSB-308 BLUE AGITATED WATER SHEET 91802 COMPLETE
WPSB-308XL BLUE AGITATED WATER SHEET 91822 COMPLETE
WPSB-408 BLUE CHOPPY WATER SHEET 91803 COMPLETE
WPSB-408XL BLUE CHOPPY WATER SHEET 91823 COMPLETE
WPSC-208 CLEAR CALM WATER SHEET 91811 COMPLETE
WPSC-208XL CLEAR CALM WATER SHEET 91831 COMPLETE
WPSC-308 CLEAR AGITATED WATER SHEET 91812 COMPLETE
WPSC-308XL CLEAR AGITATED WATER SHEET 91832 COMPLETE
WPSC-408 CLEAR CHOPPY WATER SHEET 91813 COMPLETE
WPSC-408XL CLEAR CHOPPY WATER SHEET 91833 COMPLETE
WRFB-5 BLUE WATERFALL 1-5/8" WIDE 94611 COMPLETE
WRFB-10 BLUE WATERFALL STREAM 1-5/8" WIDE 94616 COMPLETE

Re: Wave Formed Sheet

by veliko_pile » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:11 pm

The guy that made the Missouri diorama spoke of some other brand, maybe someone else is producing something similar

Re: Wave Formed Sheet

by Russ2146 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:58 pm

Both Hobbylinc http://www.hobbylinc.com/prods/sja_tam.htm and
Hobby Search http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10047619

are out of it. Looks like Tamiya hasn't produced any more.

Re: Wave Formed Sheet

by Timmy C » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:42 pm

Tamiya made it in several versions a few years ago; TamiyaUSA still has it listed, so might have it available? http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.p ... t-id=89673

Look for Ocean Effect Plate.

Re: Wave Formed Sheet

by Russ2146 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:18 pm

OK, now I see it

Dang!!!! Now I'm getting frustrated looking for it!!!!

Re: Wave Formed Sheet

by veliko_pile » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:15 pm

He applied the liquetex gel on the wave sheet, whet that was dried he pulled off the thin layer and used that layers to make the actual sea.

I don't have a preformed plastic wave sheet, so in order to do this process I need to buy ONE at least (than I can make layer of GEL out of it). So my question is where to find (buy) this preformed sheet, I did understand the process

Re: Wave Formed Sheet

by NukeMM » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:08 pm

Russ2146 wrote:I think that you misunderstand what is being done in this build.
He did not buy a "wave formed sheet".
He created the waves by using a product called Liquitex, an acrylic gel, to sculpt the waves on a base of wood sheet, painted and topped with plexiglas to which he applied the Liquitex, sculpted the waves, applied more paint and then the white foam, which is also an acrylic gel.
I kindly disagree with you, Russ. The gentleman actually applied Liquitex to the wave formed sheet and peeled the curred Liquitex gel off of the sheet and used the solid Liquitex.

That's how I understood the process, anyway. :wave_1:

Re: Wave Formed Sheet

by Russ2146 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:06 pm

I think that you misunderstand what is being done in this build.
He did not buy a "wave formed sheet".
He created the waves by using a product called Liquitex, an acrylic gel, to sculpt the waves on a base of wood sheet, painted and topped with plexiglas to which he applied the Liquitex, sculpted the waves, applied more paint and then the white foam, which is also an acrylic gel.

Wave Formed Sheet

by veliko_pile » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:11 am

Hi,

I really love the way that this seascape looks:

http://www.naritafamily.com/howto/Misso ... _frame.htm

But I can't find anywhere this Wave Formed Sheet, do anyone know where I can buy it, or if anyone have some spare I'd like to buy it.

I think that this is the most realistic way to do a big scale sea, so I would like to try it out

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