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by **Rob 2** » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:11 pm

Thanks for your encouragement. Progress is in fits and starts between �should be job hunting guilt� and �make the most of the fine weather to work on the house guilt�
Mind you I do enjoy a guilty pleasure now and then

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Rob.

by **mark_sch** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:33 pm

Mark

by **JIM BAUMANN** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:19 pm

This is looking pretty sharp!

Fine modelmaking!

envious of your progress--I am over-run with work and have done nothing for 2 =weeks.......

Jb

by **Rob 2** » Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:23 am

Thanks for the comments Christian and Daniel.

As for the linoleum decks Christian I followed the painting instructions provided by Zvezda and Trumpeter.

Page 127 of the AOTS states,

"All mess decks, accommodation areas etc were covered with thick linoleum, known as corticene, where elsewhere the decks and platforms were plain steel".

In the end I went with linoleum because I liked the colour contrast.

I hope this helps,
Rob.

by **dafi** » Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:34 am

The usual great Rob-treat for us. Feeling well pampered

XXXDAn

by **Christian M.** » Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:02 am

Because I build this mother of capital ships too in moment and also with Pontos Set, an always interesting wip thread for me as inspiration. Your kit looks really good until now and the extra work you did was it really worth!

The only real difference between us is the shade of the grey, because I choose after study of original photos a some what lighter grey as you ... but this not mean that my is right and you wrong or something like this, because I found also pictures showing her somewhat darker matching to your colour choose.

One question I have here: You made this reddish brown linoleum colour on the floor of your bridgework, where did you read / see it that Dreadnought had? I will do too, because from the beginning on I thought she has too, but found no sources about....

Cheers,
Christian

by **Rob 2** » Fri May 31, 2013 2:02 pm

Thanks everyone for your support.

Initially I was hoping to assemble the main components of the foremast before fitting to the kit but this proved to be impossible so the mast was disassembled. The machining of the main derrick is a work of art, the heel pivot actually works! I initially assembled the derrick using the etched rigging lines but felt these were over scale. They were removed and the masthead modified to represent what should be there, the rigging was replaced with fly fishing silk.

I painted the mast and fitted it to the kit using epoxy, plenty of fiddle time required. I had considered various Heath Robinson inspired contraptions to hold everything square while the resin set but resorted to a blob of blutac in the end. The lower platform was folded up and the starfish platform test fitted. The stiffening pieces were added from .5mm Evergreen, further study of the A.O.T.S showed they should be finer.

You will have noticed the funnels have been added; I made funnel stay bands from Bare Metal Foil and made impressions in the funnels where the stays would go with a needle. Various ladders have also been added to this area. The rear funnel stays have been added from stretched sprue.

The main mast has been fitted after adding the fittings for the 40ft coaling derricks and adding two supports per side to the searchlight platform.

The 32ft cutters had an extra thwart added as well as stern benches.

The various skylights have had their covers added.

The six 40ft coaling derricks have also been assembled and the fit of the components was incredibly precise.

Thanks for looking.
Rob.

by **Captain pugwash** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:22 pm

Great job Rob mate.
She is looking very good.
Sorry to hear on your curcumstances, hope they Improove.

by **litvin70** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:04 am

Very helpful and interesting for me. Thank you.

by **Rob 2** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:54 am

Thanks Guys for the positive comments.
With more time than usual on my hands I have been busy with Dreadnought. Works alright but it does get in the way of my modelling time.
The breakwaters have now been added.

Some of the many PE components that require folding, the detail is amazing.

Bridge fittings including a PE ships wheel.

The bridge itself.

Painted 12pound quick firing guns.

To fit the boat deck over the search lights I had to trim the bases of the lights quite a lot, yet more clearance was required. I didn�t want to trim the lights any further so I hollowed out the bottom area of the boat deck for additional clearance. The lights were angled fore and aft to help fit into the cut away areas of the boat deck.
I fitted some spare PE railing around the stairwells for health & safety reasons.

I read that the admirals walk was floored with gratings and decided to try and replicate this. The idea was to use a piece of WEM etch as a pattern. I rubbed some foil over the etch which after removal had the back reinforced with some PVA. It was only after painting that I decided I didn�t like the effect so removed it with a Swann Morton chisel blade. The resulting mess was covered with spare deck veneer from the kit, and we shall never talk of it again.

I finally fitted the boat deck after fitting the 12pounders below it. I had to move one of the supports at mid ships inboard slightly for clearance. An annoying aspect of this piece is that the rear portion fits on top rather than into the superstructure. This leaves an unsightly slightly mismatched joint. I decided I had to do something with it so removed the last pair of boat hangers and fitted the railing above; I could conceal its joint at the same time. A lot of tricky sanding later and a bit of keyhole surgery to refit one of the 12 pounders I managed to knock out I was pleased with the result. The last pair of boat hangers was replaced with slightly larger Evergreen, the joint reinforced with brass wire.

I still need to matt down a lot of this work to conceal some shiny glue deposits and Future stains, I use this to check my sanding as it quick dries and leaves a glossy finish I can play light over to look for imperfections. I have also added a two pairs of ladders and two pairs of steps up to the boat deck which have been missed by Pontos, hardly surprising with their work load and us impatient modelers nagging them with our wish lists.
I have started to fit many of the sub assemblies.

Next up will be the funnels only because she looks rather strange at the moment.
Thanks for looking.

by **MartinJQuinn** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:40 pm

Holy sh*t - outstanding work. Love the hull plating!

Good luck on your job search.

by **sotter** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:13 am

Beautiful work! I admire fine hull plating. A lot of work will require proper rigging of Dreadnought, especially antitorpedo net rigging.

by **Rob 2** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:45 am

Thanks guys for the comments.

Something I forgot to mention was that I used the backing material from the wooden deck as a template to cut masks. It proved very useful and saved some time.
Rob.

by **FlowerPower** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:35 pm

outstanding!

sorry to hear about your job, best of luck.

Cheers!

Rob

by **ArizonaBB39** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:21 pm

Excellent work! Hopefully you can find new employment soon

by **Rob 2** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:57 pm

I haven�t posted for sometime as I have had a lot going on, anyway enough of the excuses.

Some of the etch components are tiny but fit together very well these include the vents and the breakwaters. The eagle eyed amongst you will have noticed gusset on the right hand breakwater with no hole, the original fell victim to the tweezers catapult.

I�m sure you will have noticed the copper wire eyebrows done in the tried and trusted way.

Couldn�t resist trying the turrets, purely to check the fit, honest!

I have been keen to try and replicate or at least hint at the plating of Dreadnoughts hull. After a lot of searching I have been able to get hold of a copy of the AotS book and photocopied to the correct scale the plating diagram. This was coloured to denote the recessed plating and masks cut from tape, the idea being to create a stepped edge with paint. Once this was done the top colours were added in light mist coats. The boot topping was reversed masked to take advantage of the black paint I used for this stage. I was after a subtle effect, rather too subtle as it turned out so the edges were further refined with couloured pencils, a propelling one was used for a harder edge. This was further worked with an eraser and a stiff paint brush. Very tricky to photograph but eventually I got some pictures worth posting.

The twelve pounder quick firing guns have also seen a lot of attention (First picture as kit supplied) with bits of etch ladder and copper wire for sights, bits of evergreen and etch gun sights from a WEM set for hand wheels.

I have also been busy painting many of the sub assemblies for the superstructure so a mad mass assembly session to follow soon with more pictures. I like to spray a darker shade first then spray the top colour from above to give a shaded finish.

Next post should be quicker as I'm now unemployed

Thanks for looking.

by **Dave Spencer** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:03 am

I hope you are enjoying building this kit as much as I am following it.

It is funny how we all approach builds differently. It surprises me when people attach things such as deck fittings prior to painting them.

Regards, Dave

by **Christian M.** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:38 am

Beside excellent work you show here, it is for me a very important thread now!

Why?
Next kit after my current Sevastopol is IJN Mikasa from Hasegawa, but then same Dreadnought kit + same Pontos Set will follow.

Normally it was planned to make Borodino, but that was moved to later, because in summer I will get a complete kit + all aftermarket things out of a barter with a French colleague (He gives me some ships + aftermarket stuff, I give him several 1/35 kits and aftermarket things which I will never will build ... because my interest in 1/35 is since 1 year reduced to Vietnam war only since I started buildiung ships, as his is changed from ships to 1/35 area).

So I will observe your progress here with full intrest of course. Your remark about turrets is for example very good to know ...

Cheers
Christian

by **litvin70** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:36 pm

Excellent work

by **Rob 2** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:29 pm

Since my last post I have assembled the main hull components after drilling two holes in the bottom and capturing in thick plastic card a couple of suitable sized nuts.

I applied the wooden deck and to maintain the hatch height above the deck I built up all the coamings with plastic card before applying the etch.

Some of the fittings suffered from poorly aligned molding and are easier to scratch build than clean up.

The bollards were removed from the deck as part of the building up process and were replaced with plastic card.

The entries in the deck for the anchor chain were built up with plastic card and the domed covers crash molded over a burnishing tool.

To prevent the see through effect of the hawse holes they were packed with Miliput which once set was drilled out.

All the removed deck fittings have had their bases built up and been glued back in position.

I�m hoping to receive some reference from the AOTS book soon so I can start replicating the hull plating.
Thanks for looking.

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